Welcome back, Thunder Nerds, to a journey into one of cinema's most iconic thrill rides, Goldfinger. Released in 1964, this isn't just another James Bond film. It's the movie that defined a legend. From the unforgettable Aston Martin d b five to the menacing charm of Oric Goldfinger himself. Every frame oozes style, suspense, and sophistication.
Thundernerd 1:On this edition of Thundernurge, exploring the story, secrets, and the genius that made Goldfinger a gold standard in spy cinema. So buck them up because o o seven is back and the stakes have never been higher. Three, two, one. Thunder Nerds are This is exciting. We have got our resident James Bond Connoisseur in the house back ready to do Goldfinger.
Thundernerd 1:So without further ado, let's let's bring him in with this one. Mister St. John Smith. St. John Smythe, my dear.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Mister Smythe. Mister St. John Smythe.
Thundernerd 1:Welcome, sir. I'm Jenny Flex.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Of course you are.
Thundernerd 1:I love an early morning ride. No. I'm an early riser myself. By the way, the name is James St. John Smythe.
Thundernerd 1:I'm English. Mayday, where have you been? I've been waiting for you. Waiting for you. Welcome back, mister
Mr Saint John Smythe:I love bad Spomer. Good be back.
Thundernerd 1:Good to be back doing Bond. I watched Goldfinger for the first time in a little bit, and I feel like you mentioned that you had watched this more recently than myself Yeah. If I'm not mistaken.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. So
Thundernerd 1:let's let's halt on Goldfinger because something happened recently that I feel we need to talk about. Double o seven First Light. Right? It dropped a state of play. What it was like a thirty minute state of play video going, here's where the game's at.
Thundernerd 1:Now I trust I trust you've seen this. You've Yes. Right. Yeah. I don't know about yourself, I skimmed through it.
Thundernerd 1:I didn't wanna see the whole thing because I'm thinking like I want I wanna play this and see it when it when it comes out, and I think it's dropping I think it's March next year, they said. So Yeah. I I was like, okay, I wanna watch I wanna I wanna experience it new when it comes out, because games I feel that are story driven these days, like, don't have heaps of hours of game time in them at the best of time, so it's like I would rather wait, but I did skim through it. And I wanna ask you, what did you think as a as a massive Bond fan? What did you think?
Mr Saint John Smythe:I honestly, I'm in the same I've got the same mindset. I did the exact same thing. I didn't wanna watch the whole thing because I didn't wanna spoil. Like, I'm a big anti spoiler person. I didn't wanna spoil anything.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I bits that I did see, because I I also skimmed through it. I I've probably watched about ten minutes out of the thirty or so minutes that was released.
Thundernerd 1:I think I probably did the same. Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I am very excited for it. It did make me excited for it. It looks like a cross between the Hitman games. Oh, it looks very similar to the Hitman games because it is made by the same company. Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And I honestly think I think the game probably started out as a Hitman game before they got the license to, you know, turn it into a Bond game. Because it it just it looks very similar to the last Hitman game that came out. But it it looks like it's got some elements of, like, in Uncharted in it as well. Mhmm. And I'm a massive fan of the Uncharted games as well.
Thundernerd 1:How many Uncharted are there? Are there three or four? Four. Four.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Four. Oh, the yeah. Four main ones, and then they did one for the PS Vita.
Thundernerd 1:Right.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Okay. And they did a like a DLC kind of
Thundernerd 1:What was that one?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Like a four a 4.5 type kind of game.
Thundernerd 1:What was that called? Four point like a deal.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The Legacy or something?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I think that's it. Uncharted Legacy or something.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Charted Legacy? You play as Chloe the the dark haired.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I haven't I I think, like, fell off the Uncharted games. I feel like I've I fell off must have been after two,
Mr Saint John Smythe:maybe. They just get better.
Thundernerd 1:The Yeah. Fourth one was so
Mr Saint John Smythe:Oh, yeah. Fourth one was so good.
Thundernerd 1:They were like
Mr Saint John Smythe:And the third one too.
Thundernerd 1:At the time, all they those. Were like game changing graphics at the time, I remember. Like, everyone was like, holy shit, the graphics in Uncharted is so good. Because it was was the second one? Was it Thieves something?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Among Thieves. Among Thieves. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:It's the last one I played.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And I remember when they went to I know I'm supposed to be talking about First Light here, but I remember for Uncharted three. So a lot of it takes place on a big a big, like, a cruise ship. A big, like, ship with shipping containers all over it.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Like a cargo ship.
Mr Saint John Smythe:A cargo ship.
Thundernerd 1:That's what
Mr Saint John Smythe:it was. Thank you. And they ended up building, like, a whole ocean with, like, like, waves and everything like that. It was, like, groundbreaking at the time. Mhmm.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Was like
Thundernerd 1:I think that because so you're saying that you believe, from what you've seen, you you you played all the Uncharted's, it's got a bit of the Uncharted mechanic in double o seven First Light from what you're seeing, it's giving a little bit of that. Right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:So feel so I'll tell you one one what should I say? Okay. I'll I'll tell you a couple of things I liked. I thought the graphics looked freaking unbelievable, like it looks awesome. I love there was like a moment where from the parts that I skimmed through, he's kinda going through a I guess, like a big there's there's like an event, a dinner event, or there's something or actually, I I went through a couple of bits.
Thundernerd 1:There was another bit that look, I think the part that I'm talking about, I'm not sure where it was meant to be, but what I noted is they were telling they were kinda trying to show off how you can do different things to get by different scenarios, e g, you might walk down some stairs and be like, oh, know, where is the bastard? He's apparently got in you know, there's an intruder or whatever. Keep your eyes out, and you you act like you're one of them, and you might use Yeah. That to get past them. Or it, like, kind of rewinds it, and then it's like another way is you might use your laser beam, and it shows you that you can, like you've got, like, some type of high high focused energy beam that you can, like, fire at shit.
Thundernerd 1:And I was, like, that feels very everything or nothing to me, like, where it's Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, very, like, almost die another day ish, like, game like, do you and I don't mind that for a video game bond. I actually, like, kind of like that, so it's not so serious and, like, stark and
Mr Saint John Smythe:I agree.
Thundernerd 1:Do know what I
Mr Saint John Smythe:mean? The vibe that I I was getting massive, like, everything or nothing vibes from it, particularly, like, with the way that do you remember the old like, the double o seven moments and stuff like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Understand. Were they were kinda like optional, like Yep.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. They were.
Mr Saint John Smythe:You'd be able to
Thundernerd 1:They were hidden for you to find.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Yeah. They were kinda like hidden. I I get the same kind of vibe with this. It's kinda like you can you can play the game, and then you can talk to your friends afterwards about how you approach that part of the game, you know.
Thundernerd 1:Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. 100%. I I dig that and I vibe that.
Thundernerd 1:Now now I do have to go into some things that I am not mad about, and this is what stood out to
Mr Saint John Smythe:me. Firstly,
Thundernerd 1:exactly what you said, it feels like another hitman game. Saw some comments on the YouTube channel going this is just hitman with hair, and it feels a bit like that. I think that like, you know, I want it look, I just want it to feel that the graphics are good, it's got some gadgets, I just want it to feel like James Bond, and my worry thus far is after, you know, going through it and after going through it, I'm I still don't feel like this guy feels like James Bond to me. He he like, I was watching some dialogue when he's when the car is driving at the start, and there's a woman in the car and they're talking, and this and that. And I know he's young, but there's just dialogue that I'm like, that that one, the voice is not I'm not sold.
Thundernerd 1:The model, I'm not entirely sold, that's why I like the Scar, but like, he he's lacking the even the dialogue, man, the dialogue was it sounds not like James Bond, but maybe that's the point. Maybe the point is that he's young, he's brash, he's he's not sophisticated. Yeah. Another one of my mates pointed out, like, oh, well, maybe they're gonna make you know, maybe this is a trilogy where, you know, it's gonna be that by the end of the thing, he's morphed into the bond that you you know and love. He's gonna get to the point where he's that suave, sophisticated, older bond that's less brazen and less like saying shit that doesn't sound like James Bond would say.
Thundernerd 1:What what do you think about that? Like I
Mr Saint John Smythe:completely agree. I'm I'm kind of giving it a chance because of that, like, it's young bond, and he hasn't, you know, fully found his way yet. Maybe he gets more confident, and he starts to become a bit more suave as the game progresses.
Thundernerd 1:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I kinda doubt it. But
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I'm being hopeful.
Thundernerd 1:Fuck. Okay. Yeah. So we're we're on the it sounds like we're in the same stratosphere of Yeah. Thoughts.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I think a lot of Bond fans, like true Bond fans are probably feeling the same
Thundernerd 1:Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Same way.
Thundernerd 1:I'll tell you what I do love. I love that o o nine is the villain, because Yeah. O o nine, he gets killed in Octopussy, He gets his fucking car stolen from him from Bond Inspector. Like, I'm pretty sure there's at least one other I think o o nine is also the the the the o o agent that Renard puts a bullet in, like kills in you find out he's or maybe no. Maybe it was Renard who was sent to kill o o nine, but he couldn't get the job done and he put the bullet in Renard's head, I believe.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I think it was was it o o nine?
Thundernerd 1:I think it was. We said o o nine
Mr Saint John Smythe:to rebuild Renard. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Think it I think it's Renard. I think it is. Oh, sorry.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Think Yeah. It's One of the double o's would have bought in Renard's head.
Thundernerd 1:So so let's let's say let's let's say that o o nine didn't get that done in Wells or enough. I'm almost sure that was him. He gets killed in Octopussy. We know that o o nine got his car stolen that was meant for him, Inspector, the bond takes. He's the most unlucky double o agent there is, and to make him the villain is kind of like fucking funny, think.
Thundernerd 1:I like that choice. Yeah. I'm excited because I think the locations look so freaking good. Like, that's one of the things I'm most excited about, that the things have showed off, it all looks really sick. I wanna see this model.
Thundernerd 1:Maybe if I see this model in a tuxedo, maybe they're holding off on the tuxedo model.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Have you seen the preorder outfits?
Thundernerd 1:I saw they had the Live and Let Die oh, so the the outfit from fucking Spectre, beginning of Spectre, the the Yeah. The festival. What what are the other ones? What are the other ones? Was there a I don't think I saw a traditional, like here's what I
Mr Saint John Smythe:didn't see in were the of them.
Thundernerd 1:I saw yeah. There was a few that they they put into that. Here's what I didn't see. I didn't see a classic the classic black tux with the black tie, and I didn't see the white tuxedo with the black tie and the rose from Goldfinger, and so I didn't see that those two locks, but they're probably gonna hold off on those, probably.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Probably.
Thundernerd 1:It seems like they're going for the the Spider Man PS four type thing where he has all these different outfits you can put him in. Apparently, Hitman, you can put him in heaps of outfits. I've never played Hitman, but I've seen Hitman, and I can understand why people are saying that this looks Hitman ish.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It yeah. If you watch some Hitman footage on YouTube, you'll it'll it'll look very similar to what you've seen
Thundernerd 1:Right. Okay.
Mr Saint John Smythe:With First Light. It's basically like you dropped into this this world, this level, fairly, like, big level, and you've got your target. And there's different ways there's lots of different ways to take the target out.
Thundernerd 1:And most
Mr Saint John Smythe:of the game is actually it's not just killing the target, it's finding new and out there ways to kill the target.
Thundernerd 1:That's cool.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And there's, yeah, there's a lot of different, like, steps to to get to it.
Thundernerd 1:So there's options. You've got options aplenty kind of thing in the mechanics.
Mr Saint John Smythe:You can sneak into the kitchen and take out the chef, and then you can put the chef's uniform on, poses the chef
Thundernerd 1:That's pretty sick,
Mr Saint John Smythe:poisoned poisoned food and serve it to the guy or
Thundernerd 1:So it's gonna be similar to that. So it's it's gonna be like you here's the environment. There's heaps of things we've set up within this environment. You, as the player, decide how you wanna do this. Because they were talking about the Yep.
Thundernerd 1:The the combat and how you can be like you can throw a guy into a window, you can knock his head like they've shown that there's different ways that the combat system will work in this game. So I'm guessing that's very similar as well to hit them. But okay. Look, I'm I still remain excited because I'm a double o seven fan, and I hope they land it. I think Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Should we get into Goldfinger? Yeah. Okay.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I I think Yeah. With First Light, my my thoughts with it is I think it's gonna be a good game, gameplay wise. Mhmm. It just the thing I'm worried about is whether or not they nail the Bond vibe. It might be a good action game.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It might not be a good Bond game.
Thundernerd 1:I think I'm exactly with you on that. So let's hang tight and cross the fingers and hope that they stick the landing. But Yeah. Alright. Let's move on.
Thundernerd 1:Let's move on. Mister Saint John Smite, Goldfinger is what people would say is the archetype of all Bond films that followed. It just is. It it's where they definitely perfect the formula of what you would say has really never been challenged for most of the Bond films that that come after this. It's got the pre title sequence, it has the the the great intro, the music, the the the the intro theme, and and just the soundtrack throughout.
Thundernerd 1:It's got the Q's lab, the the the car, the Aston Martin makes its debut here. It's got Goldfinger, the Henchman. It's got it all. It's got everything that the winner It's got
Mr Saint John Smythe:it all.
Thundernerd 1:It's got it all. The locations, it's probably the first proper one that's like hops location as well, if you know what I'm saying. Like Yeah. Jamaica was kind of the place that Bond is in in Doctor No, and then Russia and what
Mr Saint John Smythe:In Russia.
Thundernerd 1:So here, it's kind of like they they have films like You Only Live Twice where he might spend most of the most of the film or the whole film almost in in Japan, but most of them globetrot, I would say, from here, and this is where it kind of sets that that standard. What are your high level thoughts of Goldfinger? Before we get into it, we won't rate it here or anything of course, but like high level before we get into some key details, what how did you find your recent revisiting of Goldfinger?
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's you summed it up perfect. It's the blueprint for a classic Bond film. Like, they ticked all the boxes for this one, in my opinion. Like, the gadgets, the the girls, the villain, the henchmen, the music, the locations, the the scripts, the lines in
Thundernerd 1:it is it's so quite important. Classic one liners. Classic.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's yeah. It's it's up there for me. In my mind, I've had it in my head that Goldfinger is Connery's best.
Thundernerd 1:Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Now that could change with rewatching these films. Mhmm. Yep.
Thundernerd 1:That that it may it may change. That's that's gonna be interesting. I'm gonna be interested to see where you rank this one and rate it out of five star when we get there. I think we, for this film, think that what we do is we break the film down, and and look, challenge me on this one if you would like to, but I think how we how we do this one we we do it a little bit differently to how we've done them. Because it's got such clear stages in my mind of what goes on, so Florida, we go off to Switzerland, we go to Kentucky.
Thundernerd 1:I think we break it down to the location, the set piece type of thing, and and we just talk about those moments in the kind of sequence that they happen. Right? So Yeah. I think the opening so let's let's talk about the opening of Goldfinger. It like, so one of the things that it sets that other films had had well well, pretty much all of them from here maybe you might have to preface out Craig films, I would say, because the Craig films are more linked together, those ones.
Thundernerd 1:But for most of the films that flow on from this point, the opening plays out as a mini mission. If you know that.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And I've always I've always loved this. Yeah. It always used to play to my imagination when I was a kid. I used to watch that bit, and I used to just think what mission is this? What led up to this moment in the film?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Mhmm. And I used to just think about I just used to think about I used to think of it as if it was the ending to a different Bond film that was just never released that exists, but just wasn't.
Thundernerd 1:That's a great that's a that's that's interesting, like a a lost Bond film that Yeah. Never released and you were just capturing the last moments of it. Yeah. Yeah. You were right at the climax of the film.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He just and I I love the way he comes in.
Thundernerd 1:I
Mr Saint John Smythe:I was taking the piss a bit with watching it. I watched the first bit of it with my partner.
Thundernerd 1:Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And I was like I was like, oh, what? I was like, look. There's a there's a duck. I was like, oh, hold on a second. Like, that's not actually a duck.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And she was like, I'm out. And she walked off.
Thundernerd 1:That's fucking hilarious. Like, I was watching with Sarah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Love that little the little duck snorkel. Is it a duck?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Well, it's like a yeah, it is. I actually don't know even what you call it. I mean, you call it a duck. You you that's what it is.
Thundernerd 1:It's a duck. Right. So I was walking
Mr Saint John Smythe:Scuba gear.
Thundernerd 1:It's so funny, man. Like, do you know what was funny? Like so I've been watching this with with Huddersfield Girl. I've so she walked in when I was watching Doctor No, and like, yeah, didn't I don't know. Didn't really she was just doing her own thing while I was watching it.
Thundernerd 1:And then same thing happened with From Rush We Would Love. There might have been a few scenes where like, she you know, the eyes went up and she's like, oh, what's going on there and all that. Goldfinger, I said, oh, like, I'm gonna put Goldfinger on because I've gotta I've gotta get this I've gotta watch it for the for the retrospective I'm doing, and I said, do you wanna watch this one from the start? And she was like, yeah. No.
Thundernerd 1:I'll like I'll I'll sit down and watch it. And didn't take her eyes off the screen. Like, it. Just loved Goldfinger.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That's good.
Thundernerd 1:And I feel like it has that watchability where when you if you vibe it, it's a it's a plot that I think moves along much in a much simpler way to follow than some other James Bond films in the in the in the Eon lineup. Like, some of them, you're like, oh, fuck. I'm a bit lost with what's actually happening, but you enjoy them?
Mr Saint John Smythe:See, was this was one of the rare Bond films when I was a kid. I actually knew what the fuck was
Thundernerd 1:going on. Same. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I knew what Goldfinger's plan was. I, You know, Bond's following Goldfinger. He's trying to figure out, you know, the how he's smuggling the gold. You know, he's melting it down to turn it into panels of the the golden Rolls Royce. Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And then he that's how he's been, you know, smuggling the gold. I thought I used think that was so cool.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It it all just, like, it all just makes sense. At its simplest, everything makes sense. There's a couple of things that I will get to soon that I have to pull up and question, and we will get to that when that arrives. But I would say the plot is very easy to follow.
Thundernerd 1:The opening sequence is smart. It feels confident. It feels like they know they have a winning formula now. They they, you know, had a hit out with Doctor No, then they tried something a bit edgier and darker in From Rush Would Love. And by the end of From Rush Would Love, it feels like they've gone, oh, we've got a hit on our hands.
Thundernerd 1:Connery feels like he's just double up he feels like he's James Bond by this point, like he is Bond, and
Mr Saint John Smythe:He knows the character so well.
Thundernerd 1:Knows it so well. And when he gets out of the water, and then that music oh, man, the music in this from John Barry, this this is so good. Like, the the music all through Goldfinger is snazzy. And when he, like, kinda drops down on that dude and knocks him out and it's like, it's just oh, it's so good, man. And then oh, fuck.
Thundernerd 1:I love it. I love this opening so much. The
Mr Saint John Smythe:the music is in this in this film is so good. Like, just not even just the Bond theme. No. Just, you know, like the what was it called? Welcome to Miami or something like that, but the Miami intro music?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Miami intro music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:I know the one you're talking about, and
Mr Saint John Smythe:Like that?
Thundernerd 1:It's so good. It's so classic, and you know it. I can I can hear it right now that you've said it? Do you know what I'm saying? You can hear it, and I think that the some the best Bond scores are the ones where the motif of the main title song is perfectly done throughout the film.
Thundernerd 1:Like it sound like Live and Let Die is an example of that. Thunderball does it well, Goldfinger is no exception. It's it Oddjob's pressing engagement is such a good track.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And I used to play that when so I used to go for drives up in the not too far from where I live, there's a good mountain range with a a really good road. I used to play Oddjobs Press and Engagement while I was driving, and it
Thundernerd 1:just bomb.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It would just be such a vibe. It was so good.
Thundernerd 1:Oh,
Thundernerd 1:it's such a good track. It's such a good soundtrack. So the opening's there, he he you know, you get Connery rising from the water with a fucking duck on his head, and then you've got him, like, going in there and blowing up this this heroin fucking facility. And when he when he when he gets out of his wetsuit and he's got the tux underneath, it's just everything about it is like, oh, man, they they know that they've got a winning formula here. This feels so confident.
Thundernerd 1:Like, I can't imagine what it would have been like to watch it at the cinema in 1964, because all that I can think of when I watch it is, what did the audience think was going on here? Did they think they'd walked in, like, late to something? Like, nothing it's so different to anything that had followed, because I don't think really I mean, we're talking about the sixties here. There wasn't a lot of franchise films back then, like Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying?
Thundernerd 1:Like, characters that returned for sequels, and in in a blockbuster film, what you like That's true. Like
Mr Saint John Smythe:Strange concept when you think about it.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It is. And we we're so normal
Mr Saint John Smythe:about another film, but it's the same characters from a different film. Yeah. And It's it's not strange now thinking about it No. In 2025. But back then, that would've been blowing people's minds.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. This is before Indiana Jones. It's before Star Wars. It's before The Godfather even. It's before I mean, I'm trying to think of another I can't.
Thundernerd 1:I can't I mean, I don't I cannot think of any other franchise that was happening in the way that James Bond was happening back then. Anyway, so because you've got you've had him for the first one. Now the first one, Doctor No carries over Spectre as an idea. So it expects you it it expects you to have seen the first and know what he's talking about when you watch From Rush With Love. Here, there was an issue with the rights, and that led to Blofeld not being able to be used in Goldfinger.
Thundernerd 1:So as far as I'm aware yeah. As as what I'm aware, what happened was and I can't remember this dude's name. So a guy gets into a rights dispute over over Spectre or whatever it was, I believe, and they end up going, okay, we can't use that. We can't use Blofeld. And that this is I'm pretty sure the dude that they're in a dispute with is the guy that ended up winning the Thunderball lawsuit.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Gonna say, it's not that never say never again.
Thundernerd 1:It's that dude. It's that dude. So That prick. That prick. So for the rest of you Thunder Nerds that that don't know this, like, there was a lawsuit around the time of Thunderball.
Thundernerd 1:This guy won it, and the deal was that he could essentially make his own version of Thunderball, but it had to be like ten years later or something.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Ten years later or something.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Something like that. And so that was part of what went on here, and it's and it's one of the reasons I believe that they don't use, like, I think something happened where they couldn't use Spectre and Blofeld after diamonds. That that whole thing resurged. I could be wrong, but I think it it came back to the surface, and that's why they never name him in For Your Eyes Only.
Thundernerd 1:They just inferred that it's the same dude, but they they don't I'm not even sure they credit him maybe as Blowfell, I can't remember, in in For Your Eyes Only, but like, that was their way of trying to, like, finalize that story because they they felt like they never got to After Diamonds. Yeah. But I like that they take a break here. This is the sole Connery outing that doesn't have Spectre.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I I love that, that it's like it's Connery Bond versus specter throughout all his films, and then there's just one just lone film that's got nothing to do with Spectre. And it's yeah. I I don't know what it is about about that fact, but I just I love that.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I I think it's because the reason we probably love it is because it's like less is more. We we Yeah. Because we don't have Connery in any other soul outing, Eon production or otherwise, where like Blofeld and and Spectre aren't kind of featuring, when it happens, you savor it all the more, I think.
Mr Saint John Smythe:For me, I think it's it makes the world it makes Bond's world feel larger because he's got other things going on, other threats going on in his line of work that
Thundernerd 1:Than just trying to take, like then yeah. Like,
Mr Saint John Smythe:not the one enemy behind it all. It's multiple threats. He's, you know, this guy who's completely unrelated is another massive threat Yeah. That Bond has to take care of.
Thundernerd 1:It's almost like It
Mr Saint John Smythe:just makes it makes the world feel a lot larger.
Thundernerd 1:A lot larger. A lot more lived in.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Two guys going at it, you know.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It's almost like Goldfinger gives you a snap like, you've seen it. You know that he's, like, away on different missions. He he references as much in, like, from Russia and all that. And you know that he's an agent who's been on previous missions before Doctor.
Thundernerd 1:No. But here, it's like we get one mini mission at the start, and then another mission that is completely separate to Spectre, and we're getting a glimpse into what this guy does. Oh, he's not just taking out, you know, guys are out for world domination. He's out he's he's he's tasked with, you know, taking down, you know, some smuggler or something. You know what I mean?
Thundernerd 1:That's cool.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He just wants to be really rich.
Thundernerd 1:Wants to be rich, like it's fucking cool. And okay. So let's talk about Florida. It's a great sequence.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Alright. It's
Thundernerd 1:This sequence. Miami, like It's one of my favorite Sick.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Parts of the film. I love this sequence. Everything about it, like, as I was saying before, the music, like the intro, the Miami, like, intro just really sets the scene. And then it just looks like such a such a chill place to go. I used to wanna go.
Thundernerd 1:Just makes you relax when you watch it. You're like, oh, I wanna I just wanna go there and relax in that pool, man. Like yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The and that outfit that Bond is wearing in it, that blue little one piece.
Thundernerd 1:How sick is that outfit?
Mr Saint John Smythe:I when I watched it, I jumped online and was like, how do I get this outfit? I want this myself. I looked it up. It was about it was it was about a thousand dollars.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And I was like, oh, that's sick. I was like, I really wanna buy it. And then I thought about it. I'm gonna look like a weirdo wearing this. I was like, when would I ever wear
Thundernerd 1:this? It's like a it's like a towel suit, like a towel outfit.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I was like, people are going to laugh at me.
Thundernerd 1:It's the the the the fucking thing is though, right, that and I because I saw it on, like, back home. I remember, like, it was it was in the window of a shop for sale.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. I think you sent a photo of it to me.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. And I was like, oh my god. Like, I need to and then I looked at the price exactly the same as you did, I was like and the other thing I thought was like, I'm not gonna look like Connery in this. Like, I'm thinking I like what it looks like, but Connery actually can pull this off. I'm not gonna look like Connery in this thing.
Thundernerd 1:You know what I mean? Oh, fuck.
Mr Saint John Smythe:100%. People are gonna look at me wearing that and be like, who does this idiot think he is? Sean Connery?
Thundernerd 1:Oh my god. Like but anyway, so yeah. You're right. It looks sick. This is an example where I think I touched on this maybe in in from Russia.
Thundernerd 1:I can't remember if it was doctor North from Russia I mentioned this, but what I love is how there's just cutaways of shit going on in that location, like the the diver diving off the pool and and then splashing, and then there's like ice rinks and stuff, and it spends a bit of time with Felix as he's looking at all this, and you just get lingering shots to to build this because you you gotta remember that people weren't, you know, globe trotting per se in the nineteen sixties as much. So
Mr Saint John Smythe:didn't have Internet.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. They didn't have all that. So they weren't seeing so when they go to the cinema and they're they're in this darkened room and they see these and they go, wow, that's a look at the world, look at the things going on in the world, like Bond was a way to, you know, travel the world in a way, and I love how this film kind of does that, and it's a great setup. We meet Goldfinger very early for a for a main Bond villain when you compare it to the So other
Mr Saint John Smythe:early. Like, compared to Doctor No, where he comes in
Thundernerd 1:Like, over half way?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Like, there's there's like twenty minutes of the movie left, and then Doctor No makes his entrance.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Like, just Boom. Gold Goldfinger straight away. There he is.
Thundernerd 1:There he is. And you when on he's not on a mission. He like, he's as far as I'm aware now just let me think about that. Say Is he on a mission?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. They asked him to go keep tabs on Goldfinger.
Thundernerd 1:Goldfinger. They've kept yep. So so they've they've asked him to keep tabs. It's it's but it's because at this point, when we find him yeah. You're you're right.
Thundernerd 1:You're right. Because m says, oh,
Mr Saint John Smythe:we ask you to keep tabs
Thundernerd 1:on him, not borrow his girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. There's there's a scene That's right. With Bond and m.
Thundernerd 1:It's m. It's m. It's in the office. He's like, I told you to keep tabs on him, not Bono his girlfriend. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:So so he's there. He gets introduced to gold well, he he doesn't get introduced to him, but he sees him and he goes, okay, there he is. This is the kind of guy that I'm working with. Man, when he gets up to that room, that that's the little shit that Connery is like, you know, when he gets the the key from the woman, he's like she's like, this is that's mister Goldfinger's sweet. And he's like, yes, I know.
Mr Saint John Smythe:You're very sweet. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Like, you know what mean? That's like so charming. You know, like, doesn't and then when he's there with Jill, he that's one of the great Bond James Bonds in my opinion. The way he kinda just Bond. Like, he's he's got something else.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Oh. So
Thundernerd 1:good. The way he he you know, she's kinda going, who are you? And that kind of shit, but he and he's not that focused on her. He just swaggers in in that fucking sick outfit and delivers He's
Mr Saint John Smythe:like grabbing the binoculars.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. And and he's he's kinda alphaing Goldfinger. He's like, they're going, you know, you listen here, Goldfinger. Your luck has just changed. Like, I doubt the Miami police will like what you're doing.
Thundernerd 1:Like like it's just and and how about the way when he asks her, like, you know, there's so many good fucking quotes in this film, but the way that he's like, you know, is that all he pays you for? I'm so glad.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He's got the oh, mate. There's some really good there's some really funny moments in that.
Thundernerd 1:Like So good, man.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And My name is Pussy Galona. I must be dreaming. Be dreaming.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Did you know?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Please.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Did you know the original script, instead of him saying, must be dreaming, she goes, my name's Pussy Galore. And he goes, like, my name's Pussy Galore. And he goes, I know you are, but what's your name?
Thundernerd 1:No. He doesn't. No. He fucking doesn't.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And then they said they're like, we can't have that. So he came into the, I must be dreaming.
Thundernerd 1:That's that's fucking I think I I actually I think that what what like I must be dreaming is Oh my god. That is
Mr Saint John Smythe:I know you are. Like, what's your name?
Thundernerd 1:That's so that's so bad. I feel like that I must be dreaming is fucking funny as a line, though. Like, it's a good and the way he delivers it, he's like, I must be dreaming.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Like must be dreaming.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, it's good stuff.
Mr Saint John Smythe:One thing that used to confuse me as a kid.
Thundernerd 1:I didn't know what happened.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The name.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I didn't know that.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The name Pussy Galore. Like, I
Thundernerd 1:It's funny when
Mr Saint John Smythe:you I I knew that innuendo, but as a kid, I was like, how is there a person that has this as their name? Yeah. It's like
Thundernerd 1:So ridiculous. Doesn't make sense. It's probably
Mr Saint John Smythe:Or you get your name legally changed.
Thundernerd 1:Literally, Is is this is it the is it the most upfront Bond innuendo Bond girl innuendo name? Or I mean, Holy Good Head's pretty that's that's pretty full on.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That sounds a bit, you know.
Thundernerd 1:Is but I think Pussy Galore is probably the most, like, oh my god.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It is.
Thundernerd 1:It has
Mr Saint John Smythe:to be.
Thundernerd 1:Pussy Galore.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Was there was there any before that? Is she the original one that You know what?
Thundernerd 1:I think she might because Honey Rider no. I I think you're right. I wouldn't really say Honey Rider is that crazy of a name. I I think that Pussy Gloss is easy yeah. So you're right.
Thundernerd 1:So it's it starts the it starts that, and also it starts unless I'm mistaken, let me just think back to from Russia, it also starts Bond's one liners as well. Oh, no. No. No. It doesn't.
Thundernerd 1:It doesn't. Because doctor No, he goes, think I think they're on their way to a funeral. That that's
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yep. Yep. So my like, we get the gold girl, a really famous, like, icon in Bond.
Mr Saint John Smythe:On every every poster, like
Thundernerd 1:Poster, it's known in cinematic history. We get a great thing that we get more of throughout the series, the the Bond and Em, like, invited to dinner and Bond kind of, you know, shows his fucking his drinks, his knowledge of drinks. I love when they get to well, first of all, I love that Bond takes it personally. It's not a vendetta per se. Like, if you were to make Goldfinger in 2025, you almost feel like the whole film would be like, Bond gets one upped and goes on a vendetta mission.
Thundernerd 1:Like, this Yeah. Doesn't do that. It just goes M just has to pull him in the line and go, don't you make this a vendetta? Like, this is a normal assignment and you can be replaced if you can't do this mission. When we get to the I love the golf scene.
Thundernerd 1:I love it. I love how there's just some random fucking caddy that you never see again, and he like has these lines.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I love that guy.
Thundernerd 1:I love that guy. I love that scene. I love it how like he's just on Bond's side just
Mr Saint John Smythe:And when Bond when Bond what does he do? He switches the golf balls or
Thundernerd 1:something? Switches the and he's like, let's have a look the fucking
Mr Saint John Smythe:The caddy's like, he's like, oh, you got him, sir.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. It's like, this dude had a few days shooting with Sean Connery and probably had a blast doing it, and it feels like and makes that whole scene more fun, I think. That whole, like, early exchange where, you know I guess we get a bit of it in Goldfish sorry, Doctor No where Bond dines with Doctor No, but he's a prisoner at that point. This is another example of, like, you know, hanging with the the villain.
Thundernerd 1:But there's no you don't capture anything. You're just probably the first time where he's just, you know, they they both know what happened in Miami. And that becomes apparent later. Right?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Pretty ballsy of Bond to basically, you know, hang out with Goldfinger
Thundernerd 1:Literally.
Mr Saint John Smythe:When it's like, is he meant to be undercover?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It's like he's gone there, and he
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's almost like an ego thing.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It is. It's like it's like just two men of power kinda like feeling each other out and going, I know you. Because he then says at the end he says at the end of that exchange, you know, I think I I can't remember the exact lines, but Goldfinger says something like that that's twice our paths have crossed, let's let's leave it at that. So he knows that Bond was the dude from Miami, and we get a I mean, there's so many classic scenes that the Oddjob throwing the hat at the statue is a really famous kind of
Mr Saint John Smythe:Iconic.
Thundernerd 1:Iconic thing, the crushing of the golf ball. We get the first Yeah. What would you say? The first QLab scene where we we already knew so he was named as Major Boothroy in in Doctor.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Moe. Major Boothroy. And then yeah. Then It's the first scene with, like, you know, giving him the gadgets. I mean, we did have, like, the scene with the briefcase from from Rise With Love.
Mr Saint John Smythe:But this one was you know, they had the the Aston Martin, and he's gone through the different gadgets, like the the little GPS tracker that's in the car.
Thundernerd 1:That's right. The GPS tracker.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yep. Doesn't sound that special, but back then
Thundernerd 1:That's true.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That's yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Oh. It's like turn on turn on find my iPhone kind of thing. Yeah. Put on an AirTag. You know what I mean these days?
Thundernerd 1:This is a double o this is an AirTag, double o seven. Put it in your bag. Like know what mean?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Double o seven, your new nav man.
Thundernerd 1:Literally, double o double o seven, your new Google Maps is equipped with GPS tracking. Like, so I I think that you're right. Like, it's not that special now. The car is fucking sick. The rotating the kind of oh, you know, it's got smoke screen.
Thundernerd 1:It's got bulletproof. It's got rotating number plates. Got the, you know, I never joke about my work double o seven gag that this scene kinda heavily influences Skyfall's Bond and a r cue scene that they have when they're looking at the the kind they're they're sitting there and they first meet in Skyfall. Like, there's there's moments here where he where Bond goes, oh, you'd, you know, you'd be surprised the amount of wear and tear that goes out on the field. He talks about that here, which is very heavily kind of referenced in Skyfall's thing where they have a bit of banter about, you know, what good is a field agent type of thing, you need someone to pull the trigger.
Thundernerd 1:I like that kind of homage in Skyfall, but what about Switzerland? We we get there in Switzerland, like, we get it's not a chase per se, but it's like a little moment with the sister. What's her name? Tilly Masterson or something like that, I think?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Tilly. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:So he's following Goldfinger. I like that so here's one thing I noticed. I know this is so minor and we've got stuff to get through with this, but I just like how in these films, they they show that there's different sides to characters. Like, there's a moment where where Goldfinger and Oddjob stop off on their travel, and they, like, deliver they, like, give flowers. Do you remember this?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:They like I don't know if they're just laying out or they or they buy it. It's it's just like a moment of like, oh, they're, you know, obviously, they're nefarious and they're up to they've got a but they're also human beings. They fleshed out human beings that aren't just twenty four seven like, I'm evil. Like, even though he kinda does go on a bit of a monologue later on. But what about where you get the gadget with the car?
Thundernerd 1:So when the the laser the laser comes out of the the car and he, like, takes that out? Just kinda sick.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The the that little cutting tool comes out of the ring.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. No. Not laser. I'm thinking about living daylights. The yeah.
Thundernerd 1:The cutting tool. The cutting tool. Where it like
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I ran you off the oh my god.
Thundernerd 1:How did that happen? Like, he's so so cheeky. The gadget
Mr Saint John Smythe:in this movie, it set the it really set the standard.
Thundernerd 1:Set the standard and it set the, oh, this is where we're leaning in, we're leaning in with life.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Even at the start, the duck on the head. And, like, they've they've replicated that a couple a couple times. One that always makes me laugh. Think it's octopussy. Roger Moore inside the fucking That the crocodile.
Thundernerd 1:That has to be the most.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And it just opens up, and it's just Roger Moore's little face in there.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, no. He's looking up, mate. That has to be one of the all time, like, most ridiculous gadgets Bond's ever had, surely. The the crocodile. And yet, how stupid is it?
Thundernerd 1:How, like, the clearly when you see it in that film, it's like like clearly very like wooden and doesn't move. But then there's a moment where like the the crocodile like moves like an actual crocodile would move at the part where he's like fighting the dude in the water. But then when he, like, later on when he comes back, he like, oh, there's it's just a very, like, fucking wooden stiff crocodile thing.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Opens up the revealed bond inside.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, that that is pretty funny. They
Mr Saint John Smythe:had the the manta ray cloak as well in
Thundernerd 1:That's right.
Mr Saint John Smythe:License?
Thundernerd 1:License. Yeah. That was a good one, I thought. I thought that was a good one. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Because it's like it doesn't you actually are fooled for a moment when you see it. It's you think yeah. No. I like that one. That was clever.
Thundernerd 1:I forgot about that one.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. That one was a bit less a bit more believable.
Thundernerd 1:A bit more believable. Yeah. Is there any others? Like, of that of that vein? Like,
Mr Saint John Smythe:pretending to be an animal?
Thundernerd 1:I mean, there's the the fake horse That's ass
Mr Saint John Smythe:the crocodile.
Thundernerd 1:In Octopussy. Oh, it's like, it zooms and lifts up the jet colour. Octopussy is like so wild. Can't wait to talk about that.
Mr Saint John Smythe:When I was a kid. They ended up forced to go flip up, and I was like, what
Thundernerd 1:the hell?
Thundernerd 1:What the
Thundernerd 1:fuck is that? Yeah. I I actually can't wait to talk about Octopussy when we get to it. That's gonna be a fun one.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Oh, yeah.
Thundernerd 1:What about like so so there's there's three Bond women in this film. Four, technically, but, you know, that one gets pretty she get she cops a hit to the back at the beginning and that's it. So, like, the the other three, you've got Jill, very famous. Jill, Tilly. Tilly gets killed really quickly by Oddjob.
Thundernerd 1:Like, there's she's there in the car with Bond, but then it shows you I like that they almost make you think, oh, she's gonna be like the new, you know, Tanya. But then
Mr Saint John Smythe:She's the Bond girl of the movie.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. And then she gets dismantled, and you're like, what fucking hell, like, they're not here to play around. You know, it
Mr Saint John Smythe:sets a someone had to get killed by the hat.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. Someone had to
Mr Saint John Smythe:get killed They show it taking the head off the statue.
Thundernerd 1:Otherwise, it's like
Mr Saint John Smythe:You've got to kill someone with that.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. You got to, otherwise, he's missing everything he throws, isn't he? But he's a perfect aim somewhere. I guess he
Mr Saint John Smythe:draws with the teeth. Yeah. And he kills
Thundernerd 1:Oh, he kills the chickens in Egypt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Does he? No, he doesn't. Kills He kills the dude.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He bites bites some dude.
Thundernerd 1:He he bites a dude, but like, it's just interesting that they make you think she might be a Bond girl, and then in Goldfinger, and then all of a sudden, like.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The music that plays when he's chasing her down and kills her with the hat.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It's it's
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's and it's like you were saying before, you can just tell that it's you hear that music, and it you can just tell it's Goldfinger even though it's not the title track.
Thundernerd 1:Can tell you're watching Goldfinger. It's got that Yeah. The motif. Yeah. Can we talk about what has to be and I I I've got this question to ask you.
Thundernerd 1:Is the the double o seven laser scene in Goldfinger, is it the most famous imagery from a Bond film, do you think? Or do you think there's something else that's more famous? Because that is that is so well known that that double o seven tied to a It
Mr Saint John Smythe:was, you know, done on The Simpsons
Thundernerd 1:I know.
Mr Saint John Smythe:With Hank Scorpio, like
Thundernerd 1:And that's a and that's and he uses the coin. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Big deal.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:If The Simpsons, you know, makes makes fun of it, then
Thundernerd 1:That's that's almost the barometer for how you know something is really embedded in, like
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. It's like the the b sharps playing on on the roof of is it Moe's Tavern or something like that? Yep. Just like the Beatles playing their their final final performance, you know?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It's like once you that it's a really good barometer of, like, how well known something is, and that scene is so so well known, and it's it is a great it's a great scene. Like, it the the tension is is rampant. What I love about it is that it's one of the very it's one of the few times where you genuinely go, fuck, how's Bond gonna get out of this? And I know that you you know it's a Bond film, you know it's gonna happen.
Thundernerd 1:I don't know what it would have been like back in the cinema back when it happened, because I'm sure everyone probably knew back then he's not gonna die here, but it is tense. The music is great. There's like weird sound design when the when this when it first fades up, and he's like knocked out unconscious. Goldfinger can't be reasoned with here. That's what's quite interesting about most of the scene.
Thundernerd 1:He is just like, hey, there's nothing that you could possibly know that's gonna be of any benefit to me, and, you know, I'm you know, he's kinda going, well, Bon's like he he or he's forced to use his words. He's got nothing else. He's strapped down to a table. A laser is coming for him. No one else seems to no one else in the room seems to be like, oh, you know, is this a bit inhumane that we're just gonna, like, let a laser go up this dude.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's gonna cut this guy
Thundernerd 1:in half. Yeah. Like, it's a bit gory, but no one else says anything. No one's questioning Goldfinger. He's just kind of there, and he's like, I'm not interested in you, and I trust that, you know, if you get replaced by another double o double o agent, like, they'll probably have more success than you will.
Thundernerd 1:So ta da. And Bond, you can see that the motherfucker's sweating. He's going, what the fuck do I say to this guy to and he just kind of recalls back to something that he heard earlier. That's how he gets out of it. He just recalls back to the grand slam thing he overheard.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Operation grand slam.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. And it's really just the whole, like, can you afford to take that chance bluff that he uses to be like and it gets him over the line, but fuck, it's a good scene. It is the music, everything about it is so iconic. I watched it for the first time in ages, and I just and I was so because I was watching it for the retrospective, I was so, pardon the pun, laser focused in what I was watching. I was so just like zoned in to what I was watching, And I just went I was what it was almost like seeing the film in a whole new light, because it's it's so embedded in my brain, because I'm a massive Bond fan, you are as well.
Thundernerd 1:To watch it and really hyper focus on it, I just went, fuck, this is good. This is so so good. Such good and and I'm gonna I'm gonna I've got a bit of a hot take here. Maybe not a hot take. Maybe maybe it's actually not a hot take, but here's what I wanna declare right now.
Thundernerd 1:This, he gets shot by the tranquilizer, This is where Goldfinger goes downhill, in my opinion. I'm not saying that it becomes a terrible Bond film from this point. I just think that the opening sequence, the Miami sequence, the golf thing, and the whole Switzerland area is where Goldfinger peaks for me, and then it starts to slow down. And from this point on, when we go to Kentucky, it's it's not it's not as good for me from this point on. You
Mr Saint John Smythe:know what?
Thundernerd 1:Yep. I
Mr Saint John Smythe:I completely agree with you. Interesting. I watching rewatching the movie, I didn't realize how long it how long it was. After the laser scene, you know, how he escapes, there's the whole the end of the Switzerland scene. Then when he goes to Kentucky, I was like, this is the end of the film, and it just kept going.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And, oh, shit. I started to get a bit fatigued. Yeah. I I completely agree. It it drops off quite a bit.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Until until the end, I I do really enjoy the fight Oh. With Oddjob.
Thundernerd 1:It's great. It's one of the great Bond moments, but and I yeah. 100%, you're right about that.
Mr Saint John Smythe:But there's a there's a lot that happens in between Switzerland and the end of the movie that
Thundernerd 1:There's a lot, and there's not a lot.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Feel like it drags.
Thundernerd 1:But yeah, you're right. Like, it drags. It's like there's a lot that happens, but there's not a lot that happens actually. Yeah. Like, you kind of so he okay.
Thundernerd 1:This is this is where I really wanna get into it here. I enjoy here's what I I'll tell you what I enjoy. I enjoy Bond like in the jail cell where he's like walking back and forth and then disappears. Even though when I was watching him, like, practically, surely, this would not this would not work. Like, if if I saw someone do that, like and then I and then I opened the door and there's fucking no way out for that person, I would look at the roof.
Thundernerd 1:Do you know what I'm saying? I'd I'd I'd have to. I'd look everywhere, but he kinda just like looks in every but even just the whole thing, I'd be like, what I'd I wouldn't even open the door and be like, what a fucking weirdo. Like, do you know what I mean? It's like I wouldn't I wouldn't be like, where's he gone?
Thundernerd 1:Like, you know what I mean? Like, did he get out? Do you know what I mean? Like that doesn't really make sense. If that do you know what I'm trying to get at with that?
Thundernerd 1:Like
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:So Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Not a very smart guard.
Thundernerd 1:No. Not a very smart guard. Now, I love when he when you when you pan back later when they capture him and there's like six of them in the room now, that's pretty fucking funny. Yeah. Here's a here's a problem I have.
Thundernerd 1:Operation Grand Slam, I just found myself maybe it was because, you know, I'm watching with Huddersfield Girl, she's never seen this before. I know Bond inherently. Now again, I am watching it at full capacity. I am zoned in. But maybe when you're there with someone else and you're watching it, you see things that you are usually not you're disregarding because you've seen so many times it's just numb and you're you're into it.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. She was going, what the fuck's going on with the, like, how he goes to explain his plan. He's like flipping like a billboard. Like, he's flipping like a pool table over, and he's like, it's such an elaborate, like, thing to be like, here, let me just flip this over and I'll show you my plan. Like, it's a bit much.
Thundernerd 1:You know what mean? Like, he like it's cool, and it's very, like, sixties. It's very, like, Thunderbirds esque where, like, you know, things are flipping with buttons and all that. But just
Mr Saint John Smythe:All the models and
Thundernerd 1:The models and stuff. But it's like, here, I've perfectly laid out Fort Knox, and now I'll show you how this will work. Like, and he's kind of like, he goes on a bit of a spiel about, you know, how Armstrong's been on the moon and we or not not no. No. He doesn't say that because he's 63.
Thundernerd 1:He talks about how or 64. He talks about how men have fired rockets at this point at the moon because no one had been on the moon at this point. But he's going through a few things and he's like, we've we've split the atom and we've we've we've we've, you know, gone and and done all these things, and the only thing we haven't dunked is climb. Like, it is he goes on this like little megalomaniac moment rampage, but he spent this time flicking these buttons to get everything, and you can't there's a there's a line that had me in stitches where someone goes, what the hell is with that with that funk pool table, golf hanger, or something? Someone like calls this pool table out.
Thundernerd 1:It's fucking funny. It is extreme. His little Yeah. Elaborate thing is extreme. What do we think of his plan?
Mr Saint John Smythe:I I like it because it's different.
Thundernerd 1:I agree. He's not
Mr Saint John Smythe:stealing gold. He's, you know, making the gold useless so that the value of his gold goes up. And the the value of his gold will go up that much that it will be worth more than if he was to steal.
Thundernerd 1:Have always liked that because, like you said, it's different. It's it's it's it'll be boring if he was just going there to steal it. It adds a layer to be like, oh, he's he he loves gold, but he's he's gonna blow this he's gonna destroy it, and make it make it radioactive for a hundred something years and or whatever it is. Fifty years, I think it might be. Maybe not.
Thundernerd 1:I think it's fifty.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Something like that.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It's like it would have been more like Fifty years. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's like fifty six years.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. He's gonna essentially break the economy where he's gonna go, like, my gold will go up. Similar to Kananga buying up all the heroin in Live and Let Die so that his he's gonna give samples away, buy up all the heroin, and then absolutely make a killing off all the addicts at the time from like the Vietnam War or whatever, because it was a heroin kind of epidemic back in the in the in those early seventies. Yeah. It's kinda similar to that, but Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I I agree with you. I like the idea that it's going to make it radio like radioactive or whatever. And he's gonna make more money off that.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. I'm not I'm not sure how realistic it is and how it would actually like, if it actually would work. I I don't I don't really know. But I do like the the the plan. I do I do like it.
Thundernerd 1:Question. So he explains everything to them. What was the purpose of, like so okay. I need to understand this. So what happens is he goes he he essentially says, alright, like, who's in and who's out?
Thundernerd 1:Like, you all you all lent me a million dollars so I can do this? Like, why don't you let me what because he's got the laser as well, and the laser you find out it's not just like a cool tool that he uses for one, it's like he's gonna he's that's how he's getting into the into Fort Knox. Right? My question is, he can't I don't I'm I was struggling to understand understand what what the the point of it was when he just kills them all. He essentially gets them in a room to tell them his plan.
Thundernerd 1:One of them says, oh, I'm not interested in this. So he goes, you wait out there. He then he then loads he proceeds to not just have Oddjob take him into a back room and shoot the motherfucker. He he loads the guy's car up with gold and then goes, alright, Oddjob will drive you down to the thing. There's your gold.
Thundernerd 1:Like, Oddjob drives him down the road, shoots him, kills him, gets the car crushed, and then goes and then when he gets back to the Oddjob gets back to the house or something, there's a line from Goldfinger going, oh, like, have to go get my essentially going, I've gotta go get my gold. And it's like, is that another smuggling thing that he's pressed it all down into the back of his car? The car's being smashed by a crane. I'm I don't know why he did that. He could've just had Oddjob shoot the motherfucker.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I think it's more of a it's probably like a bit of a egotistical kind of, like, like a power thing. He didn't just kill the man. He he got him crushed.
Thundernerd 1:Crushed. Like, I'm gonna I'm gonna just so because yeah. That's right. Isn't it like the line something like I've gotta go separate something from the gold or something like that? It's essentially saying like, he was smashed down.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. But I don't I just don't understand it.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He why
Thundernerd 1:load the car up with the gold? Why load the car up and then drive him off? Again, it's like, shoot the motherfucker or do something more practical. It almost feels like the film is just padding out its runtime that it was given. And and so it does it in a way that's a bit elaborate or a bit visually interesting, but it's not.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Do do you know what I'm trying to get out with that? And then
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. I I completely agree.
Thundernerd 1:And then he kills the other dudes. So so really what it becomes is a monologue to the audience about what Goldfinger's plan was, but then he just kills him. Unless unless that is also, like you're saying, this is what this is what Huddersfield Girl suggested that when he gets them all in the room, it's like, well, he's of going off and killing them all one by one, he's gathered them into one location to off them all. And he's maybe even instead of just gassing them the moment that they got there, he's almost had his egotistical kick by just letting them all know what he's gonna do and they're nothin' them.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That's that's what I think is because, you know, he's he's obviously you know, remember when was it Tilly? No. Jill says he likes to win? I think it's kind of him, like, kinda gloating a little bit and
Thundernerd 1:Like he's already won.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He's won. I think he's getting a bit of pleasure out of it. Like
Thundernerd 1:Yep. Drawing it out Yeah. Kind of thing. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. I I I feel like yeah. I I feel like he's getting some kind of yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Makes the most out of to me.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. That's that's what I have have felt about it was he gets satisfaction out of, you know, telling his plan before yeah. Which which is like it's like with a lot of the Bond villains. They always tell Bond their plan before they kill Bond. And you go, why?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Just food him. Don't bother about telling him your plan because what if he does escape on the odd chance? You just tie him likely shit. Yeah. You've just you've just told him your whole plan.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That's it's a they they're getting satisfaction out of, like, you know, after your dead bond, this is what is gonna happen. You know, you've failed to stop this.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. You're right.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's This is my plan. It's like a pride thing.
Thundernerd 1:It's a pride thing. It's a pride thing, and it's like wanting to gloat to someone who you admire in a way. Like, you're like, I admire this Yeah. This cunning prick who's managed to evade me up until this point three times, and what's to say you won't do it again right now? But in any case, let me just advise you exactly what's going to happen kind of thing.
Thundernerd 1:So yeah. I think you're right. So okay. Well, let's say this. So so for my own justification, he delivers his monologue to all these people that are in on what he wants to do, just so that he can get it off his chest, let someone know in a really theatrical way, then he kills him.
Thundernerd 1:And for the one guy who said, no, I'm not interested, he takes it one step further and goes, I'm gonna fucking crush you with you. You want your gold? There's your gold. I'm gonna crush you with it. I'm gonna get that gold right back, motherfucker.
Thundernerd 1:Like, that kind of thing.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. That's that's yeah. That's what I think is
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. Do we want to talk about Bond converting? My This is like possibly one of the this is bad stuff. Like at this moment, his I don't care how, you know, charming Sean Connery is.
Thundernerd 1:Like this is this is what essentially happens. Now, let you both play. A bit of fighting, and then, no. No. And then just forces himself on, and you're like, what the fuck?
Thundernerd 1:Sean, like, Bon, what what's doing here? And then and then this, the way it's like like, no, but then suddenly, like, yes. Like she's like, all of a sudden, it's like somehow she's awoken or something. Like, what is fucking going on in this scene?
Mr Saint John Smythe:How did Bond not get arrested for that? Like,
Thundernerd 1:the things I do for you.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That wasn't even in the script. That was just Sean Connery.
Thundernerd 1:That was Sean. Was Sean, like, what is going on in this scene? It's just a bit like, oh my god. It doesn't firstly, it doesn't really
Mr Saint John Smythe:Sean just Sean just beats up on a black man and then
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. What it's almost you're watching it and you're like, I don't know how this if this would have played in the sixties even that well or if people are laughing at it, but it's clearly meant to be I don't even think they ever say it outright, but like she kinda what what's her line? She's like, I don't I don't, like
Mr Saint John Smythe:She basically says she's a lesbian.
Thundernerd 1:She basically says it, but she doesn't say it. She just she infer I just can't
Mr Saint John Smythe:remember what the line is. Now It's pretty obvious, but.
Thundernerd 1:So help me understand this. Bond was so good that he was able to just by doing his duty, he was able to, like, have her switch the canisters? Is that
Mr Saint John Smythe:Well, that's how calming Bond is. He's able to, you know, convert them.
Thundernerd 1:Convert them. Because then isn't
Mr Saint John Smythe:Once they've once he's forced himself on them so that they can have a taste and know what
Thundernerd 1:Oh.
Mr Saint John Smythe:They're missing.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, so, like, wrong.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's so bad. It's like So wrong.
Thundernerd 1:So do you think that so okay. This is another thing.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The sixties,
Thundernerd 1:The sixties. Anything girls in the sixties. So the swinging sixties. But what what okay. So I need to understand this.
Thundernerd 1:The canisters get switched. We know that. Now, was everyone pretending to be knocked out?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yes. See, as a as a kid when I saw it, I was like, oh, it's changed from poison gas to like sleeping gas.
Thundernerd 1:That's what I've always thought.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Oh. That makes sense. But rewatching it, it's just the plan to pretend to be asleep. So the whole army that's there, they're all just like the plan is when the planes fly fly past, pretend you're asleep. That's the plan.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And the the whole army's like, oh, yeah. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:I was watching it going like It's whack, man. Yeah. And I've always I agree with you. I have always thought, when I was a kid, I always thought that it was like, oh, it was it went from lethal to to to non lethal. They put him to sleep, and then they woke up.
Thundernerd 1:And then I was watching, I'm like, it's been a long time since I saw this movie, because I miss the fact that it's very like you said, it's meant to be the dead. So what's happened? Planes fire like you said, and then everyone do a perfect fall. Doesn't matter where you are, doesn't matter if you're gonna hit your head on the concrete, perfect fall from everyone, because they all
Mr Saint John Smythe:All synchronized all at once.
Thundernerd 1:And then it's like a car drives past, like it's well gone and it lingers on Felix, and he doesn't there's no like like, it's just he Perth, he just Felix.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He's actually having a sleep. You know?
Thundernerd 1:He's like proper like this.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He's taking the opportunity to
Thundernerd 1:Yes. Having a nap. Yeah. He's like, well, I might as well, you know, let him get into the thing. We'll just have a quick ten minute shut eye.
Thundernerd 1:Like, so they they get in, and all of sudden it's like the bullets are going off. I love that Goldfinger just instantly turns on the dudes, and he goes and gets like a uniform. Like, goes and like flips his uniform inside out. He's got a plan b.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I I love the the uniform and the golden revolver that he pulls Yep. Yep. Yeah. That's that's a really good shot.
Thundernerd 1:I love that. I love that. That exact shot. I can see it in my the the and the way he's like,
Thundernerd 1:you know, you'll do this, you'll get
Thundernerd 1:the door open. And then he like just picks up the gun and mows them all down. What about when the thing's like opening and it like crushes one of the dudes? You remember? Like, they like get crushed by the the the door.
Thundernerd 1:Now they hadn't seen they weren't able to get images of inside the bank Yeah. When they were making this. And Ken Adams, wonderful set designer, Ken Adams, was tasked to come up with a set, and it's a massive set when you see a zoom out of when they're in there and Bond's getting lowered down on the elevator, it slowly reveals how big this set is. It's a big set. It's not nowhere near as big as like You Only Live Twice or Spyro Love Me's Tanker, but it's a big set.
Thundernerd 1:The biggest they've done up until this point, I believe. Now
Mr Saint John Smythe:Is it is it Ken Ken Adams. Is it Ken Adams?
Thundernerd 1:Yep. Yep. So
Mr Saint John Smythe:You can tell.
Thundernerd 1:You can tell. You can tell. It's a really sick set, it feels very Bondi. I think I recall, and I could be wrong about this, he was tasked with the look, don't quote me on this side of nose, but I believe it was something like he was tasked to be to to imagine what it might be like inside there to to design the set. So he must have done some research, done what he could.
Thundernerd 1:We're talking the sixties here again, so he didn't have like the internet to just go and look this stuff up. But I remember them someone went to him and said, oh, how'd you get like how did you get a look at what was inside to do that? And they were like and he was like, I didn't. And they were like, oh, it's very accurate. Really, really accurate to what it was, which is interesting.
Thundernerd 1:They thought they did so that that's kinda sick. I'm pretty sure that's not incorrect. That fight with Odd Job sets another archetype kind of thing that happens in Bond movies to follow this. That is, I would say, that the henchmen fight versus Bond is the one that really the audience looks forward to. They don't really care about the the fight that happens or how Bond dismantles the the the main villain, e g Goldfinger getting sucked out a fucking window that he wouldn't fit through.
Thundernerd 1:It's the moments like I've got fucking
Mr Saint John Smythe:something to talk about with that scene, actually. We'll get
Thundernerd 1:to We'll get We'll get to it. So so everyone I feel, or at least when I was a kid, the fight that I looked forward to was Bond defeating Tee Hee, Bond defeating Knick Knack, Bond defeating Jaws Yeah. How's Bond gonna fucking get rid of Gabinda. Like, these were the things that I thought was cool when I was a kid. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I always
Mr Saint John Smythe:I completely agree with that.
Thundernerd 1:Stamper. Like, it was always that. You were looking forward to how Bond was gonna dismantle the henchmen, because they were the they were the muscles that you needed to get through, really. And that was the test, the physical battle for Bond, I think. Yep.
Thundernerd 1:And this is no exception. This is maybe one of the best. Like, he gets kinda just thrown around like a ragdoll. And it's funny because when they're in there, the other dude's like, oh shit, like, he's locked us in, the problem's gonna go off. Look, hey, we better we better get it off.
Thundernerd 1:I'll go down and I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll diffuse it. And then Oddjob just picks this dude up and chucks him. Like, it makes you wonder, god, this guy's so loyal. Like, does he not have like has he got like a family to feed or something? It's like the the money's only gonna come through if he, like, goes through with this?
Thundernerd 1:Like, he's so he's loyal to the the dead. That's what's so great about the Bond henchmen. They'll they'll hang out the top of a of a plane while it's moving and, you know, fight bond or something when their own life is at risk because their their their master told them to to do that. You're like, no fucking job in the world could pay me enough to do some of this shit. Job in the world could say to me, don't defuse it.
Thundernerd 1:I'll just let it go, and I'll stay here, and I'm dead however this happens. Do you know what I'm saying? Like
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:It's all were you gonna say?
Mr Saint John Smythe:I was just I love the way that it's it's part of the formula. It is. The way that Bond killed the henchmen is using their their eccentric, like, characteristic like, the weird deformity that they've got or the item that they use, like, in this case, Oddjob's hat, the steel hat that he uses to kill Tilly. He throws it, hits the metal the metal wall Wall. Where?
Mr Saint John Smythe:At the the bars. And so as he goes to take his hat off the off the bars, that's when he grabs the exposed wire, holds it up to the metal, and electrocutes Oddjob through the hat, through the steel hat.
Thundernerd 1:And it's it's almost like not exactly for it's not foreshadowed, but there's a similar type of, like, electrocution type thing that happens at the very beginning of Goldfinger to get you in that vibe in the bath where he throws the he throws the Oh, that's right. Like fan The fan alert. Into the into the water, and he electrocutes his guy, and then at the end, he like yeah. Like you said, the hat's got the steel. He it's actually Bond who tries to throw the hat at Oddjob and misses, and that's where Oddjob's just standing there smiling like and he's a he's a freaky man.
Thundernerd 1:Like, there's moments in the film where that that little
Mr Saint John Smythe:like the when he
Thundernerd 1:karate chops Bond at the start, when he then shows back on the gold on the golf course, there's a moment where Bond's like knocked out in Switzerland of the car, and Oddjob's just, like, looking at himself in, like, the mirror realizing that Bond, like, saw, like, the the reflection. He's just, like, it's weird. Freaky.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That's another thing with that music, how good the music is. It reminds me of, like, gold shining when you hear that. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:It does kind of. You're right. It's like it perfectly evokes. You you can't even articulate it, but I know exactly what you're trying to say. Like, oh, man.
Thundernerd 1:It's so good. It's so good. And I love I love how cartoony Bond used to be, and and and it's like that here where, like, he just karate chops a fucking, like, pole that Bond tries to use. He Bond, throws a gold bullion at the motherfucker and it just bounces off his chest and he's just smiling. And then he, like, hits him with it over the head and he's just and then he does it again.
Thundernerd 1:He's like, what the fuck is going on? How are you so how are you so strong? You know what I mean? Like, I love that cartoonishness. You could almost imagine like Bond hitting him in like kapow or something like a comic book coming up over the top of the the hit.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. And it's I like that they find a medium in Inspector with mister Hinks. They try and give you a modern Craig. What would a what would a in this more gritty one, how would a Bond villain like Oddjob kind of be? And mister Hinks is kind of a nice in between where he does have like the the Bond doesn't use it against him, but he's got the the silver the fingernails, like the things that he like puts in his thing and he gouges people's eyes out and shit, which is sick.
Thundernerd 1:But here Yeah. We get the first of that. That in a way that where Bond could match Red Grant in From Russia With Love, he cannot match strength for strength. He cannot fucking match Oddjob here. He is so outmatched, and he uses his power.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Crushing of the golf ball that shows the strength.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Shows the strength. I used to be when I was a kid, that was the shit that I was, wow. Because I on my DVDs that I had, and I don't know if you have this as well, but on my DVDs, I had, like, on the special edition, a dossier thing, and it'll be like the mission dossier. And you click it, and it'll be like, queue queue branch, Bond girls, the villains.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That's right.
Thundernerd 1:And and if I clicked villain, you could then choose the villain. So it'd be like Odd Job, and then it'd be like it'd find you the all you could play all either a scene that you wanted to see specifically with Odd Job or any of them, or you could press play all and it'll play you all the highlight moments of of Odd Job throughout the film. And I used to just instead of the movie, sometimes I used to just put the special edition DVDs in and I'd just sit down and I'd watch all the Jaws highlights, all the Tee Hee highlights Oh, and such a good box set.
Mr Saint John Smythe:What a box set that that that one was.
Thundernerd 1:They've never The the
Mr Saint John Smythe:detail they put into that box set
Thundernerd 1:They've never bested it. Was phenomenal.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Yeah. What do you think of Goldfinger himself as the villain?
Thundernerd 1:I have always loved that Goldfinger is this big fucking dude who doesn't look like he'd match it with Bond at all. He he he's obviously we know he's dubbed, but I I've always felt it was one of the better Yeah. Dubbings in the Bond films where I just love his I don't know how to express this, but like, I I loved Goldfinger's charisma. Like, has this way about him that's very memorable in a way that I would say Christopher Walken as Zorin is very memorable just with his characteristics, if that makes Like, just to some others I don't like as much. Like, I don't like Emilia Largo that much.
Thundernerd 1:I don't like fucking Kamal Khan that much. Not as
Mr Saint John Smythe:yeah. Not as memorable as as Goldfinger.
Thundernerd 1:Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He just yeah, the way that the actor did it, he he he did such a good job. Did did you know he actually was asking for a lot of money? Like, more money than originally signed up for?
Thundernerd 1:Was this before or after Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? Because I I was I saw Chitty Chitty Bang Bang on TV some time ago, and I like, oh my fucking god. It's got I've never seen this guy in anything else, and and he looked exactly the same, I think. Actually, maybe he did. Maybe he had like a beard or something.
Thundernerd 1:Let me have a look. Let me look this up.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I think he was asking for 10% of
Thundernerd 1:No. He wasn't.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. He was asking for like 10% of
Thundernerd 1:Really?
Mr Saint John Smythe:The movies.
Thundernerd 1:I think his name's like Gert Thorpe or something. Maybe.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right.
Thundernerd 1:So so Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, just for reference, was in '68. So this is like four years before that. So that's kind of like audacious of the dude to be like, I want I've like, I don't know what credits he had before that. Maybe it was a very big act out from wherever he's from, but is he Austrian?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Either Austrian or German?
Thundernerd 1:I'll look it up. Frobe Frobe, maybe?
Mr Saint John Smythe:He he had such trouble with saying his lines, like, in English, they ended up just dubbing. He is German.
Thundernerd 1:German. Yeah. I'm just looking this up. So so that's so funny. Hey, I'll show you him in I'll send you a photo of him in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Thundernerd 1:But I recognized They
Mr Saint John Smythe:they originally gonna go with someone else, but someone else was too expensive.
Thundernerd 1:Who was it?
Mr Saint John Smythe:So they went with him.
Thundernerd 1:Do you know who it was?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Orson Wells.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, they were gonna go with Orson Wells for Goldfinger. Yeah. Did you say that? Yeah. So I I looked him up.
Thundernerd 1:I remember seeing him and going, oh, that actor looks familiar. And then I and then when I looked it up, I like, oh my god, it's Goldfinger. But no, I didn't know Orson Welles Orson Welles would have been a great shout for Goldfinger. Shame he didn't make a into a Bond film because he was in fucking, wasn't it, Casino as Le Chieve?
Mr Saint John Smythe:I think you're right.
Thundernerd 1:I think he was I think he was Le Chieve.
Mr Saint John Smythe:They so they originally wanted to get him, they thought he would be too expensive. So they got the guy who does play goldfinger.
Thundernerd 1:Yep. And
Mr Saint John Smythe:then after he signed on, they realized that he was gonna be even more expensive than Orson Welles. He was demanding a lot a lot of money.
Thundernerd 1:And so did he he get it then? Did he get the 10%? Do we know?
Mr Saint John Smythe:I couldn't go
Thundernerd 1:Because he's in the film, so how did they, like there you go.
Mr Saint John Smythe:They might have.
Thundernerd 1:I'm gonna look this up. What was what was GERT? Wait. Oh, what's up? March did good.
Thundernerd 1:Get the Goldfinger. I don't mind his, like, confrontation with Bond at the end, but, I mean, it's funny when he gets sucked out. It's visually very funny.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Oh, man. It's have you actually if you pay attention if you watch the scene and you pay attention, you will notice something very strange during that scene.
Thundernerd 1:Really? Interesting. I I found this, Gert Froeb's exact salary for film golfing was not publicly revealed, though it was reportedly asked for 10% of the box office earnings, which was denied by the producers. However, IMDB lists his salary for the film as 52,000 USD, but there's no there's no nothing to confirm that though. So interesting.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That's what they might have called him, Dick.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. But then, like, how much he actually made, like, isn't there.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Interesting. The scene where I I kinda I wish we could watch it now and just see if you could pick what I'm talking about in the scene
Thundernerd 1:Well or playing. Hang on. It it let me see if I can if I can find it on on YouTube. Maybe I'll because you can put it to, like you can bring it down to, like, you can make it slower. You know what I mean?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. End scene or something. I'll I'll look it up. I'll see if I can find it.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The old finger death scene.
Thundernerd 1:I think I've got it.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Honestly, if you can pick something strange in this scene.
Thundernerd 1:So am I watching the whole scene or just the the moment?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Just just play from there.
Thundernerd 1:Okay.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I'm glad to have your board, mister Bon. It's already
Thundernerd 1:been Congratulations on your Okay. Finger. Hold up.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Hold up. Go back and watch the last ten seconds again.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I don't know if you can all hear me Well, if you can all hear this Thunder Nerds, it's quiet the audio, but this is the scene where so what's happening? Goldfinger walks in from the curtain on the jet. You all know the scene. Now let's have a look.
Thundernerd 1:Is it from here? Yep. Okay. I'm opening the curtain. Here we go.
Thundernerd 1:Curtain opens. Now it cuts away for a moment.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's it's the curtain. Have a look have a look at that shot It's the when Goldfinger comes out.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. It's the it's the curtain. Oh, no.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's not the curtain.
Thundernerd 1:It's gonna be behind him. Wait. Oh. Oh.
Mr Saint John Smythe:What the Who the fuck is that guy?
Thundernerd 1:What the hell was that? Who is that? And how did you notice this?
Mr Saint John Smythe:I was just watching, and I was like I was like, oh, yep. There is. There's Goldfinger and
Thundernerd 1:doesn't look any of that doesn't look like any of the associates that he's, like, been liaising with in Switzerland or well, that is bizarre.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And you watch the rest of this scene, you will not see that guy again.
Thundernerd 1:No. You'd never see him. I've never noticed him before. So he never comes out to, like, help.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Goldfinger gets sucked out the window, and then Bond just goes into the pilot to help pussy try to
Thundernerd 1:This know, lend How good is this? How good is this moment? Oh. Out the window. One of the great Bond moments.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Where where did that guy go? Where
Thundernerd 1:did he go?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Man, the special effects are so good.
Thundernerd 1:It's so funny. But you're right, like, where did he go? He just disappeared.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That guy's not in the the scene any longer. He's gone. That's so You don't see him get sucked out.
Thundernerd 1:He didn't like he didn't like come out and be like he doesn't go like, oh, Goldfinger's in trouble. Like, let me so there's a dude hiding behind the curtain as as as Goldfinger comes out, Thunder Nerds, doesn't make himself known when he realizes Goldfinger's in any type of trouble, doesn't try and dismantle Bond.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And then when Bond's trying to
Thundernerd 1:A bizarre moment.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. When when Bond's in the cockpit with Yeah. This guy's he could just come up behind Bond and
Thundernerd 1:Strangle him.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Shoot him in the back of the head, strangle him.
Thundernerd 1:Well, there you go. That is a bizarre moment. I never noticed that. How did you notice that?
Mr Saint John Smythe:I just I just saw it, and I was expecting to because I I was like, oh, I don't I don't remember there being multiple people in this fight scene.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, you were expecting
Mr Saint John Smythe:because I just saw
Thundernerd 1:him. Mhmm.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And I I was waiting for this guy to join the fight scene because I was like, I don't remember this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then he was just gone, and I was like, what?
Thundernerd 1:That is bizarre. That is entirely fucking bizarre. How what about how the the this film ends? I I I just find it so funny that they they did it in Doctor No. They do it again in From Russia.
Thundernerd 1:So it's just a classic this is what makes these old bonds so cozy, where they don't fuck around with the plot. Once the plot's done, it's done. Once the villain's gone, it's done. We're not we're not doing And the
Mr Saint John Smythe:it's so quick.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. We're not doing the like, I think I said it in From Russia Love, we're not doing the whole like, oh, know, like, you okay? Like that. That was a lot. Like, it's pretty much in Doctor No, you know, they get they're on the ship, or I can't remember, they're getting towed back and then it's like they go under the boat and that's it.
Thundernerd 1:From Rush With Love, he throws the tape away and then that's it. And then here, it's like, oh, you know, I waved down oh, shut up. There's just no time to be rescued. Come here. And and that's it.
Thundernerd 1:Like so okay. I think it's time. Oh, no. You go.
Mr Saint John Smythe:You go. Just just wanna add another one, another thing that makes me laugh.
Thundernerd 1:Go.
Mr Saint John Smythe:So we spoke about it.
Thundernerd 1:What are you gonna say?
Mr Saint John Smythe:I forget which one it was, Doctor. Noah from Rush With Love. The bit where you can pause it and be like, that's not
Thundernerd 1:Honey.
Mr Saint John Smythe:That's not Bond in that scene. Oh, it was I think it was the gun barrel in Doctor. No.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, Doctor. No. Yeah. The gun barrel. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yep. And yeah. Because the quality of the Blu ray is so good that you can now
Thundernerd 1:be like that clearly see that it's not Sean. Sean. Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:So there was another moment in this. Pussy Galore's all female was it Flying Circus? Yep. During the stunts that they're doing, if you pause it, you can literally see it is a bunch of men wearing blonde wigs on the plane.
Thundernerd 1:You you paused that, didn't you? You just you just went while you were doing
Thundernerd 1:it, you're like, there's no way, and
Thundernerd 1:you paused it, didn't you, while you're watching it? Fuck.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I I knew beforehand without even knowing. I just knew. I was like, it's gonna be a bunch of a bunch of old men, like a bunch of, like, current serving air force, like, offices. Fucking
Thundernerd 1:weird stuff. I
Thundernerd 1:my favorites, we've mentioned it before, but it's coming up, Rosie in Rosie Rosie Carver in is the all time greatest one that's ever happened.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I every single time I have watched that movie, I've paused it and had a good laugh at that.
Thundernerd 1:Oh god. That's good. That's very very good. Alright. Look.
Thundernerd 1:Let's Alright. Let's press on. Let's go to let's go to the MVP. We need to lock in an MVP, and we need to lock in a score for Goldfinger.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I know my MVP.
Thundernerd 1:I think I know mine as well. Just let me think though.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's
Thundernerd 1:interesting because I haven't given an MVP yet for James Bond himself. And I feel that at some point, that's going to have to happen especially for each maybe not everyone. I'm looking at you, Geordie. But like, I think that I'm going to give each Bond an MVP at some point for a performance in particular. Let's see where we land on this one.
Thundernerd 1:Who wants to go first? We do a three two one countdown, and then we name
Mr Saint John Smythe:I that.
Thundernerd 1:So we do it I'll I'll I'll give us a three two one. Right? And then after the one, we name the MVP. Here we go. Here we go.
Thundernerd 1:Three, two, 1, John Barry.
Mr Saint John Smythe:John Barry. Alright.
Thundernerd 1:Huge. Huge. Huge. Huge.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. The man deserves it. I mean, if there was if he was ever gonna get the MVP, it's this movie. 100%. It's it's I don't need to explain it.
Thundernerd 1:No, you don't. It is so good. Like, the music, the score, the soundtrack. I when I was thinking of it while I was watching it, I'm like, who would I give it to? And then as soon as I thought about it, I was like, oh, I know exactly who I'm giving this to.
Thundernerd 1:Like, there's no one else that can get this for Goldfinger. I
Mr Saint John Smythe:was watching it, and I think it was the Miami intro music that I was straight away like. Because I know Oddjobs Press and Engagement is one of my favorite Bond soundtracks. Yep. And when I heard the Miami one, I was like, this is a this is a tune as well. I was like, this sets the scene perfectly.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And I'll
Thundernerd 1:Love that you said
Mr Saint John Smythe:that. Early on. Oh,
Thundernerd 1:that's good, Steve.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I knew early on Yeah. That it would be it'd be John Barry.
Thundernerd 1:I did think fleetingly I think my other contender Guy Hamilton was one, like, as a director, this is his first Bond film. Terence Young did From Russia and and he he did Doctor No. But and then I thought fleetingly about Connery. I was like, Connery is good in this, but personally, I think Connery's best performance is James Bond, the one that I feel like he just nails from start to finish. I know what that one is, and I've always I've felt it for a few years now that it's the one where I'm like, this is where he peaked.
Thundernerd 1:But we'll get to that one when we get to it. I'll be interested to see. So let's get to the rating. Let's rate this. Do we wanna I know what mine is.
Thundernerd 1:Do you wanna open with this?
Mr Saint John Smythe:Okay. Well, for me, it's a it's a real tough one for me to write.
Thundernerd 1:Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Loved this movie as a kid.
Thundernerd 1:Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:So many iconic moments in it. Mhmm. Mhmm. However, it does drop right off after that scene in Switzerland. I completely agree with you when you said that.
Thundernerd 1:Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:But on the other hand, it's got so many things in it that just set the standard for Bond. It's the blueprint, the gadgets, the music, the the girls, the, you know, the gold paint the Jill, iconic. There's so many iconic moments. The laser. Mhmm.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with a 3.5 out of five.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Huge.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Because half the movie is, like, perfect.
Thundernerd 1:Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The other half, it it does start to, yeah, drop off.
Thundernerd 1:Drop off. Okay. 3.5 out of five star is what mister Saint John Smite is rating. This one, I am going to give Goldfinger four star. So I feel like we're in that same place with this film.
Thundernerd 1:It's interesting. I I've gone on to Letterboxd to see what I rated this a few years ago when I saw it at the cinema. I gave it a four and a half star at the time, and I don't agree with that anymore. I agree with what I gave from Russia. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:But I definitely look at four and a half and I think that's too much. I think it has to lose at least a whole star for how that everything goes from from the point he gets to Kentucky. If this film had stayed on the trajectory of where it was in the pre title sequence in Miami, in Switzerland, and it maintained that level all the way through, I think it would be a five star James Bond film. But Yeah.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It I agree.
Thundernerd 1:Loses that star, and I think I'm almost there with you on 3.5. I think that I get to four just because of how much I love the encounter with Odd Job and where that but, you know, it takes something really good, I feel, for me to get it up there because Yeah. Without that, I think I would probably be landing exactly where you landed.
Mr Saint John Smythe:So I rated Doctor. No three out of five, and From Russia four out of five. Now rewatching this again
Thundernerd 1:Interesting.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I was actually surprised. I enjoyed From Russia With Love more than Goldfinger.
Thundernerd 1:And I and I
Mr Saint John Smythe:Dreamed it. Yeah. Let's run through
Thundernerd 1:I agree. I mean
Mr Saint John Smythe:That that's why I've slotted it in between with the 3.5.
Thundernerd 1:I see. I see how you've done this. Okay. I agree with you, like, I think that when you're watching it, I liked From Russia better. And I think that for me, there's less glitz and glamour.
Thundernerd 1:I mean, that's obvious in From Russia Love. It's just more of a darker and edgier film, but Yeah. Like, what I mean is from Russia's plot is more complex. Goldfinger is more for a kid, and for spectacle, it's easy to follow. It's also I'll tell I'll tell you what it is.
Thundernerd 1:Goldfinger is a perfect popcorn bond flick where you can switch the brain off and pretty much know what's going on the whole way through. Whereas from Russia With Love, you've got to be a little bit more attentive, phones down to follow what's going on. There's a lot of moving pieces across the chessboard per se, pardon the pun. Like that's part of what's going on in that plot. But when it and yes, on on the surface, there's great, you know, no mister Bond, I expect you to die like that kind of these moments in Goldfinger that are so memorable.
Thundernerd 1:Bob, eject to see you're joking, I never joke about my work double o seven. All these these these sound bites that you recognize from James Bond. I just feel that when you get to the the sequence where Bond is on the train with Redgrunt, and Redgrunt's kind of saying, you know, not not until you crawl over here and you kiss my foot, and he's kind of talking about Bond, and Bond saying, you know, what what what lunatic asylum do they the dialogue is so fucking good in that section, and through the whole film, but it it peaks right there that it's like watching two different it's weird. It's very like it's like they almost and I love Goldfinger, but it's almost like they dumbed Bond down a bit or made it a little bit less. Like from Russia, it is pretty Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Like it's hard to explain. It's like they they've got a plan where they've where they've got a sex tape of Bond and they're like gonna make it look like he killed his this chick and then turned the gun on himself. Like, they're a bunch of sickos, like but it's really fucking well made and the dialogue is so crisp, and I just feel like anyway, that's that's I'm not gonna keep harping on about it. I feel like I'm from Rush With Love Simp at the moment, but you get what I'm trying to say though. Like Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yep. So there we go. So Goldfinger 3.5, Goldfinger four for me, Thunderball is next, the fourth Bond film. This was Thunderball is the highest grossing of the of the of the classic or the the the original Bond films when you adjust it for inflation. Have you watched this one yet, or are you yet to watch this one?
Thundernerd 1:So
Mr Saint John Smythe:I'm yet to watch it. I haven't seen Thunderball in years.
Thundernerd 1:Alright.
Mr Saint John Smythe:So I'm I'm very excited for this one. I'm very excited.
Thundernerd 1:Very interesting.
Mr Saint John Smythe:It's I would say it is the Connery film that I've watched the least.
Thundernerd 1:I can see that. I can see that.
Mr Saint John Smythe:With Juan Lived Twice fairly close as well. It was those two that
Thundernerd 1:You saw that. I
Mr Saint John Smythe:yeah. Never really watched that much.
Thundernerd 1:I reckon my least watched was Thunderball by a long way. Yeah. For for for it was what it was my least watched for okay. Can I ask you a question? When you were younger, before we wrap this up, what was your most least watched in the entire first twenty as you were growing up?
Thundernerd 1:Because I reckon I've got I've got two. Two that were my least watched.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I feel like Thunderball's got to be one of them.
Thundernerd 1:Thunderball will be in my three, not in my top two. Actually, hang on.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Hang on. Living Living Daylights has got to be one of them
Thundernerd 1:That's one of mine.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Due to the fact is that one of yours?
Thundernerd 1:Yep. Hadn't seen it before I got my box set.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Exactly. I just didn't have access to that one. Yeah. And I think, yeah, I missed it when it they were playing them all on TV.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Mhmm. Can't remember why, but
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. No. It was Living Daylights. Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:And probably, maybe on Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Thundernerd 1:Good pick.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I remember seeing the cover of Mhmm. Of Saint George Lazenby, and I was like, who's that?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. That's probably one of my least watch as well, actually, when I was when I was younger. I'd say I'd say overall now as I'm older, On Her Majesties is probably still one of the ones I've seen the most the least of, but it's one of my favorites. Yep.
Thundernerd 1:Here's what I would say my least watched were out of that 20 Bond run. Thunderball was not the the least watched because I had seen it in Blockbuster and rented it a couple of times on VHS. Same with Yeah. On Her Majesties. When I was growing up, the two that I I'll give you the three, but I'll give you the top two first.
Thundernerd 1:The no. I'll give you the third first.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Be Your Eyes Only.
Thundernerd 1:That's it. Never just didn't see until my box set. Likewise. Yep. Yep.
Thundernerd 1:You're exactly bang on. That was the top two. It was For Your Eyes Only, had never fucking seen it. Living Daylights had never seen it. If I was to go for a third that I didn't see until I got my box set, it was the man with the golden gun.
Thundernerd 1:Didn't see that for ages. Yeah. Never could find that.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Oh, man. I was so pumped when when the trailer for that came on TV.
Thundernerd 1:Yep.
Mr Saint John Smythe:The next week's Bond film, I was like, oh my god. Because I think I I think I screamed, and my mom was like, what's What's going on?
Thundernerd 1:I I so for me, Living Daylights and For Your Eyes Only, they're two ones that I didn't I had such little exposure to them that I was completely, like, shocked when I first saw them because I'd I'd had License to Kill for so many years. And
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. That was always
Thundernerd 1:On video.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I'd seen License to Kill so many
Thundernerd 1:times. Same. I had it on video, like, I got it from a store. I remember exactly where I got it from. Like, that one I'd seen.
Thundernerd 1:The thing about the Living Daylights and and For Your Eyes Only that was so weird is that they don't they're quite realistic in a way that from Rush We Would Love is kind of in that same vein, like they're they're villains are pretty grounded villains, and because of it, they don't show up in, say, you know, remember the double o seven magazines you used to have? Yeah. You don't see a lot of their you don't see Necros or you don't see like I can't remember the guy's name
Mr Saint John Smythe:in Necros had the cards that it came with?
Thundernerd 1:I don't think
Mr Saint John Smythe:Necros had a card.
Thundernerd 1:And I don't remember seeing Julian Glover's villain from For Your Eyes Only, like anywhere either, whereas I remember specifically seeing in that magazine, even though I couldn't find it anywhere, I remember seeing, like, Knick Knack at his controls in your magazines that you used to have. And I remember being like, oh my god, like, Knick Knack looks so cool. Wanna see But I didn't see any of the others. So when I saw Men With The Golden Girl, was like, oh, I'm seeing a film that's rare that I haven't been able to find, but I know a little bit about this. I know the Golden Gun.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I know the Nick Dac. Garamanger's Fun House.
Thundernerd 1:I know the Fun House. I've seen it. But when I saw Necros and and shit in For Your Eyes Only and they're under the I I had never seen any of it. It was like, oh my god. What am I watching?
Mr Saint John Smythe:So Yeah. I didn't know he went to, like, Afghanistan.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Either did I. Either did I. I didn't know anything
Mr Saint John Smythe:about that. Have no idea that Bond ever went there.
Thundernerd 1:Think the I think the only thing that I knew about the Living Daylights when I was a kid, but that was in magazines, is that he had the d b eight on the ice. That's all I knew. That's what I'd seen. That was my exposure. The posters I'd seen were all the ice in the car.
Thundernerd 1:I'd had no idea who went to Afghanistan or anything like that. So it was like so there you go. It's funny that we were living in an area where that we were we were going to the same video easy. We're going to the same blockbuster, and because we didn't have the Internet, we were just exposed to what what we had.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Stock that they had.
Thundernerd 1:So we we have a very similar experience with the Bond films, but anyway. I think I think we leave it there. That's good. Yeah. I'm happy with that.
Thundernerd 1:Is there anything else to say before we wrap it up or are you
Mr Saint John Smythe:Where does pussy galore rank for you in terms of Bond girls? I don't think we've spoken about her.
Thundernerd 1:We haven't spoken about pussy galore. I think she's confident. She's she's self assured, but maybe it's because she doesn't feel like a typical Bond girl in the way that even Tilly feels like a Bond girl somehow more than pussy in, like, very little screen time. She almost feels a bit more like Jill feels like a Bond girl.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. But
Thundernerd 1:because she's working for the villain, and then she's like it's like I don't it's weird. It's like I know she's a famous Bond girl, but I don't consider her a typical
Mr Saint John Smythe:Is she famous just because of her name?
Thundernerd 1:Probably. And like, Anna Blackman does have a lot of screen presence, but again, it doesn't feel like a Bond girl.
Mr Saint John Smythe:She's great.
Thundernerd 1:Does she?
Mr Saint John Smythe:She's yeah. She's not like and she she's very attractive, but she's not rated personally for me. She's probably towards the bottom or something.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I I actually think you're right. I don't I don't think I think of her as like one of the great the when I think of the Bond women, I don't think of
Thundernerd 1:I don't I don't
Thundernerd 1:think of Pussy Galore, I don't think. I think of Yeah. I'll tell you who I think of. When I think of that, I think of Anya from Spy I Love Me. I think of Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Like
Mr Saint John Smythe:Tracy. I think of Holly Goodhead.
Thundernerd 1:I think of Holly. I think of I think of
Mr Saint John Smythe:Solitaire.
Thundernerd 1:Solitaire. That's exact that's exactly what I was thinking of. Solitaire. Don't really think about I don't think about license to kill Bond girls. I don't think about the Bond girl from Living Daylights.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I don't think about, like, Pussy Galore that much. Pussy Galore maybe more so than the others because she's from one of the the famous famous Bond films, but I don't yeah. It's funny, isn't it? Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Halle Berry, I think about. I think about
Mr Saint John Smythe:Is he is he sookie or whatever her name is?
Thundernerd 1:No. I don't I don't really I don't really think about because because doesn't she, like, come in right at the end after, like, the other chick gets assassinated by the poison,
Mr Saint John Smythe:and so it's like red. Gets killed and
Thundernerd 1:I think of Domino from Thunderbolt. I think of Domino more than I think of, like, pussy galore, I reckon. But anyway.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Yeah. Whereas, like, Oddjob, he's, for me, as a henchman
Thundernerd 1:Up the top.
Mr Saint John Smythe:He's towards the top. He's right up there.
Thundernerd 1:Is he actually, where is he? Where is he? Oh, man. From your viewing now, this could change.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Now, I I reckon towards the end, we should
Thundernerd 1:Rank yeah. Let's
Mr Saint John Smythe:do some save rankings.
Thundernerd 1:Let's save it. Let's save the ranking. And what we'll do is we'll we'll we'll put the players down, we'll list them somewhere, we'll like list them in film order so that we're on the same page of like exactly who the players are and who we don't consider to be like a main henchmen for instance. But and we'll get them all, and once we got them, we'll go, right, go away, and let's on the next one, we'll we'll come back and we'll do a summary after Dine Another Day or or sorry, after No Time To Die, we'll come back and we'll do a a final one to submit a listings. That'll be the last podcast we do.
Thundernerd 1:It'll be a list listings of all Bond girls, Bond actors, like Bond henchmen, Bond villain, best locate well, and movie. We'll do them all at the end. Yeah. Full listing.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Boom. The best the best song The song. Best pre sequence.
Thundernerd 1:The best pre title. We'll we'll get them all. We'll do one grandiose Bond podcast where we where we we've come with exactly the same list, but one for one. But we'll see where we land. That'll be interesting.
Thundernerd 1:It'll be interesting to see if we are well off or if we're, you know, aligned. I I have a feeling we'll be fairly aligned, but yep. Yeah. Anyway. Let's leave it there, Thunder Nerds.
Mr Saint John Smythe:Alright. Thank you, Thunder Nerds for having me. Thank you, Thunder Nerd One.
Thundernerd 1:More than more than welcome. I I I look these are the ones that I I really dial in and look forward to lately. Like, I'm I'm itching for the next for the next Bond party.
Mr Saint John Smythe:I can't wait.
Thundernerd 1:Until then, Thunder Nerds. Over and out.