Three, two, one. Thunder Nerds are go. Thunder Nerds, welcome back to the podcast. I've got cohost here, the ice warrior. How are you doing, dude?
Thundernerd 1:Ice warrior.
The Ice Warrior:Doing pretty good. Doing pretty good.
Thundernerd 1:Very good. Now look. How you been? Tell me. What's been doing?
Thundernerd 1:What have you been up to? I know you were playing Silksong when we last spoke. How's that going? Oh. Yes.
Thundernerd 1:What do we need
The Ice Warrior:to do we do
Thundernerd 1:we touch on that in the gaming segment? But give us a high level overview. Have you finished the story? Where are you at?
The Ice Warrior:Like, how much have you done? I'm I'm I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty close. Like, I've done a lot. We'll get we'll get into it we'll get into it a bit later, but Can I tell you it's it's been interesting?
Thundernerd 1:Can I tell you what I did? And I'm not sure if I mentioned this to you in the green room, but I the other week, I went and checked out the LEGO Star Wars exhibition at the Melbourne Museum.
The Ice Warrior:Oh, nice. Did I
Thundernerd 1:tell you that?
The Ice Warrior:No you didn't.
Thundernerd 1:I don't know if I did. It's really good man. My good friend of the show, the D Man, he works at the museum. Oh really? Yeah yeah yeah, no he works and he got me some he got me in free
The Ice Warrior:Oh, sick.
Thundernerd 1:Which was awesome. Shout out to the But D a 100%, I'll tell you what, worth the price of admission. And something to put on your list if you are going to PAX this year. Something to think about?
The Ice Warrior:No. It won't be this year. Won't be this Potentially next year, but we'll see.
Thundernerd 1:Thunder Nerds, they've they've extended, I think, until December for the Lego exhibition. There's sick things like they've got I mean, I I don't wanna spoil it, but like, they've got some really cool, I guess, displays there. They've got some jewels. They've recreated some Star Wars jewels like Lifesize. It's sick.
Thundernerd 1:Like, you walk through and I'll I'll send you some photos Please. So that you can kinda see it, but and there's like little, like, challenges like, you know, they've got a certain amount of I don't think they tell you, but they've got a certain amount of Grogu and Mando LEGO figurines scattered throughout the thing, and they you've gotta try and find them, and then at the end, you got a QR code that you scan, you say how many you found, and there's a prize that that you could win.
The Ice Warrior:Oh, nice.
Thundernerd 1:LEGO set prize, a really good one. So yeah. Look, if you're in Melbourne, check that out people. I'm trying to think what else I've been up to that I can tell you about. I went and saw the new DiCaprio film last week, one battle after another, Paul Thomas Anderson's film.
Thundernerd 1:It is really good. Like I've heard a lot of good things. Oh, man. Get to the cinema. You will you will really I think you would love it, properly love it.
Thundernerd 1:So if you've got, you know, a weekend, go check that out. I'm gonna try and get to the IMAX to see it because they've got that in VistaVision and I wanna see it because that's how he wanted it to be seen. I think we talked about that on one of the podcasts recently where he sent that message out going, if you can see it in VistaVision, go see it. It's the first film, you know, like, major kind of motion picture that's been made since one eye Jackson, like, the nineteen sixties that's been shot in VistaVision from start to end and release. So if you can see it in VistaVision, people, go and see it.
Thundernerd 1:I'm gonna try and get to the IMAX here in Melbourne and see it again. Now I wanna get into this, sir. Good, sir. Let's hit the play on this. I want to talk about something with you, and I feel like every time that we get to this segment we've only done the ones before, but I feel like every time we're here.
Thundernerd 1:I'm saying the same thing. And that is that is that that is that.
The Ice Warrior:Mhmm. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:I'm talking AI in this segment. It it happened last time. I think I talked about the AI on a system. Yeah. And like, how do we get better at that, knowing when something is now, did you did you see about this Tilly Norwood?
The Ice Warrior:Did I say about what? Sorry.
Thundernerd 1:Sorry. What did you say? Tilly Norwood, have you heard about this? I only just saw this today.
The Ice Warrior:Oh, I've heard about this far out.
Thundernerd 1:I mean, how timely. The AI on a system last time, and now what are we talking about? What is doing here? What what's your thoughts on this? We're talking about a dead set so so okay.
Thundernerd 1:For those of you that don't know, maybe maybe I'll let me just backtrack on this. The the this is I've just pulled this up off a new site. AI actress. An AI actress. So it's seemingly the headline here announcing the emergence of a new hot talent on the scene.
Thundernerd 1:It's an AI actress, Tilly Norwood. Now it reads talent agents circle AI actress Tilly Norwood as studios quietly embrace AI technology. This is reported by Deadline. People are jumping in on this one as you can imagine they would be. Mara Wilson from missus Doubtfire and Matilda, she jumps on Instagram.
Thundernerd 1:They have stolen the faces of hundreds of young women to make this AI actress. They're not creators. They're identity thieves. Yep. What about the hundreds of living young women whose faces were composited together to make her?
Thundernerd 1:You couldn't hire any of them. Director Reid Morano, The Handmaid's Tale, I Think We're Alone Now, and the rhythm section goes on to say, I guess if you can't make it as an actor yourself and you're incredibly lazy, you can cheat your way in. Mhmm. I mean, look, I think it is a it is a massive fuck you to actors who are out there what about the actors that are that are that are busting their asses to to to just try and do some commercial auditions? Are they just not getting getting a look into the industry, and then we've got like an AI?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Like, I mean and it's the same with any other industry, I guess. It's just as bad. Like, I think with at least and I'm not I'm not endorsing this, but you could say that in certain corporate jobs that an AI could be used to replace mundane tasks to put more efficiency back into someone's day to day job. I've I've got roles in my day job that I go, oh, this this would be better for an AI to do.
Thundernerd 1:If if I could fasten that up, shit, it'd it'd save me a hell of a lot of time doing this other thing over here. That's where you could say
The Ice Warrior:100%.
Thundernerd 1:That it's good for. But when we're saying like, and I think someone says it here, they go on to say, an AI actor has no life experience, and no amount of clever prompts can replicate the effect of true humanity and soul. And that's that's true. Like, you can't replace that, I don't think. You might have films coming out where they start going, right, that this is AI actor here, AI actor there.
Thundernerd 1:It might be a bit of a gimmick for a bit, but I I don't think you can properly I think a lot of people will steer clear of that. They'll get bored of that very fast. You'll wanna see real people having real interactions if you're watching live? I'm talking, obviously. What what do you think about that?
Thundernerd 1:Do you are you on are we on the same page with this? It's just like Oh. What are we doing with this?
The Ice Warrior:Dude, like, absolutely. Like, what actors are now getting faced with What well, like, live action actors anyway. Things that voice actors and artists have been having to deal with for the last like two years. Only now is it starting to encroach upon the physical actors space. But this is like I've got so many friends that are artists, that are that are creatives in various different fields, and it is the death of humanity.
The Ice Warrior:As much as it is the peak of human ingenuity, it is also the death of humanity. And something that still, years on from when this first all started, that still rankles a lot of artist friends of mine, is when someone that uses generative AI to create a picture calls themself an AI artist. You didn't pick up the brush. You didn't pick up the pen. You didn't do what Are you really
Thundernerd 1:an artist?
The Ice Warrior:You trained someone else to do it. It's like it's like
Thundernerd 1:You're not an AI artist. You're an AI prompter.
The Ice Warrior:Okay. It's like saying the trainer for Muhammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all time. No, he's fucking not. He trained one of the greatest boxers of all time.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:He is not the greatest. Like, it's it's the same like, you are training something to do something you can't do. Yep. And it's as simple as that. And I'd yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Taking the taking the humanity out of art. Like, can use certain tools to assist. Like, you can use like Photoshop, and you can use editing software, and you can do all these things to assist the creative process. If you take the creative out of the process, it's not art anymore.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I I think I I'm aligned with you on that. I think that it's just like the fact that it's even I mean, it's happening in an industry where people should know that's not a good idea. But I get I guess there's then the thing of how would that work?
Thundernerd 1:How would it work with are they getting is it cheaper for them instead of paying an actor? Yeah. I don't know. But probably. And the prompting, they're not gonna turn up late on set, guess.
Thundernerd 1:They're not gonna be difficult to work with. They'll do what you tell them, but there's a lot of downside. A lot more downside than the ups not not even really upside, I would say. Like, just get an actor there on time. Just there are plenty of actors that are out there that are easy to work with that are willing to collaborate and find.
Thundernerd 1:And and that's part of the a little bit of to be challenged is also to go through the creative process of finding the thing as well. You know, if you've got something that's doing exactly your beck and will and is bringing ideas to the table, is that I don't know. Anyway, that's what I had. Do you have anything for this segment that you wanna talk about this week? Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Okay. Please. So I have found it really interesting to see the kind of we won't won't touch on the actual thing itself, because that obviously is very divisive at the moment, but Oh my god. Found it really interesting to see Well done.
The Ice Warrior:The fallout of the passing of a certain somebody.
Thundernerd 1:Yes. I know what you're talking about
The Ice Warrior:here. Recently. Yep. Yep. I actually Good c k.
The Ice Warrior:Yep. And what's been really interesting is to see some people have kind of come out of the woodwork here, and this this is this is happening as we talk like, as we're talking. Some people have kind of come out of the wool work more right leaning than you would expect them to be. There's a popular creator on TikTok called Hannah Brown, and she's made her living, like almost a million followers off of doing restaurant skits, hospitality skits, where she is usually playing the part of a server or a customer or something like that who's just incredibly rude or a Karen who just come in, you know, like and it's played off to be this, you know, the the Karen doing their thing or the the, like, colleague or manager being an asshole
Thundernerd 1:Right.
The Ice Warrior:Is obviously the bad guy, and there's like good characters throughout. And Hannah's usually playing the good character, the one that's got good morals, the one that's like nice and like all that. And she's come out real very recently, she's been spotted in one of the front rows of CK's memorial looking all sad about it. And her repost has started coming coming to the forefront where she's been reposting CK's some CK's stuff that's kind of tied him in with being very Jesus like. And there's a whole bunch of like just stuff like that that people hadn't noticed before that are now coming out and she's dropping followers.
The Ice Warrior:She's dropping content. She's like, all comments have been turned off. She's getting thrown under the bus because the hospitality industry is a very, in general, a very left leaning industry. It's more left leaning realistically because a lot of people who a lot of creatives are work in that industry, but also a lot of left leaning people just work in that industry. It is very much an industry that kind of encourages that kind of
Thundernerd 1:I've got something to say on this. Political leaning. I've got something to say on this. I think the thing that's come out of this the most interesting thing that's coming out of this is that we have here an event that I mean, it really is. It is the JFK of our time.
Thundernerd 1:It is. It it it is a it's it's monumental.
The Ice Warrior:Kind of a reverse JFK.
Thundernerd 1:That depends on how you see it. And what I think Wow. We we won't make this a a political debate here, but what we have to say is to endorse or to this is my opinion. To to jump in a comment section and revel in someone's death is a no no. I think to to to kind of glory in that, what whatever you, you know, think of, you know, said person to to revel in, like, openly kind of I mean, this is a father of children such as yourself.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It is
The Ice Warrior:just Who were at the event.
Thundernerd 1:Who were at the event, and and and they're gonna have to grow up. Yeah. And they're gonna see eventually things about people laughing and openly. I can imagine that. It's it's just like Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:It's I just think that we have to when it gets to that and and and what it will or what it has the potential to do, and I was actually listening to a podcast on this the other day, it has the potential to push the moderate right all the way over on that side. People who are kinda leaning and going, I'm willing to to listen to you out and then to see that kind of far left openly reveling in that. It's it will push some people and go, I was willing to listen to you and have debate and have that discussion with you. Now I'm not willing to do that because I'm seeing how people are responding to this. And I I think that, you know and and to happen at a university of all places where, you know, openly debating and and having conversations should be encouraged and and we should be able to go like, I can I can disagree with you?
Thundernerd 1:And I can, like you like you were saying there, how she's dropping followers. I don't I'm neither here nor there on that. I mean, personally, I I wouldn't unfollow someone just because they have a difference of opinion to me, but I also think that if it's not it's neither here nor there if someone goes, oh, I I'm not interested in that opinion. I'm not interested
The Ice Warrior:in Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Or or I'm not interested in hearing this constantly come up on my family, just gonna unfollow you. That's what I would do if you if you really didn't wanna hear it.
The Ice Warrior:But Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:To to kind of silence or suppress though, I that that is a dangerous place to be in, I think.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. I mean, there's a there's a lot to kind of think about there. I mean, the unfollowing, if you if you like, I I see it for I see why people are doing it. If they're seeing someone who kind of markets themselves as someone who has those particular values, And they're following this you're following this particular person because they make good content and also they're kind of indirectly espousing that. Not not actually espousing those values, but indirectly so.
The Ice Warrior:And then they just you you you see their real face. You they've done a
Thundernerd 1:one thing. You're saying it in that way. It's a Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Why would you want like, it's a you're supporting them with someone.
Thundernerd 1:What you're saying is not outlining with what, and therefore, I'm not getting exactly what I thought you were maybe possibly and that what you
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. Like it's Interesting. It's it's it's like it's it's it's being able to see it's seeing someone's true colours as well. Like, it's it's saying like, hey, your values don't align with mine.
The Ice Warrior:I'm not interested in interacting with you. Which like, there's that. There's like supporting someone who then supports someone that you That you really don't like or really disagree with or
Thundernerd 1:and it's not just Did you see someone talking about
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Think I think that's an interesting Very well. Yeah. I think it's an interesting it's it's it's I imagine a complete coincidence that it's coming out after this has all happened, but
The Ice Warrior:Well, it's been it's been getting talked about, so it's kinda
Thundernerd 1:Well, I just I just think it's interesting that That's it. She's kind of come to that thing of, I've got my memory of what she is. I don't think that that should because there will be people that say that and go, oh, I don't like you anymore, Emma Watson. Like, I don't stand with you now because of that. Because that that is part of where people some people come from.
Thundernerd 1:That that will happen, but it's interesting to see that she's at least gone, for me, this is where it sits. I don't have to agree with her on this, but that doesn't mean I don't have to and and that's that's something I I feel we need to get a bit better at as a society. We need to. We need to get
The Ice Warrior:Seeing seeing the world as more more gray than black and white, and that's
Thundernerd 1:And being able to say, like, I'm not gonna cut you off. If I've got if I've got no problem with you as a person, my good friend, the ice warrior. Yeah. If I've got no problem with you, but you hold a completely different political value to me Yeah. I'm not gonna cut you out of all instances of my life because I go, oh, it's a shame.
Thundernerd 1:I just I just wish, but we don't align. Like, I think we need to
The Ice Warrior:be like that. I like I think James Bond is a completely terrible series of films and should be just burned to the ground. No. I'm kidding. But Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:I know what you mean. So it's so true. Like, seeing seeing the world is a little bit more gray.
Thundernerd 1:Like, gray. A good way of saying it. World's a bit more gray.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Now, there has been well, I guess plenty of bits of news to to get through. Mhmm. A few things that I've written down, I think you probably have some stuff, we'll also wanna get into Silksong. Yes. Are you happy to to move on swiftly?
The Ice Warrior:Let's go.
Thundernerd 1:Alright. Let's do it. Come take a stroll through the blues. It's time for yesterday's news. Let's get into the news, miss The warrior.
The Ice Warrior:Christ.
Thundernerd 1:I think
The Ice Warrior:Perfect perfect length of time there as well
Thundernerd 1:Thank you.
The Ice Warrior:For the transitional song. It was a little bit longer before that.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I've cut that down based on your feedback.
The Ice Warrior:If you can cut every other transition down to exactly that kind of length,
Thundernerd 1:you'll like that. Yeah. I've kind of kept most of them and kind of around there now. So I've got film. Film first.
Thundernerd 1:What have I seen? Okay. Now look. Let's start with this one. Let's It's it's not it.
Thundernerd 1:I'm sorry. Like, I saw this come up. I don't know if it's rage bait. I don't know if it's true. I actually I am leaning towards that I believe it probably is.
Thundernerd 1:I can see it happening. I can see them putting it out and going, hey, man or woman, like, we wanna see what you come up with. I just think it's out thinking the room. I I I don't It's
The Ice Warrior:not needed. Like, it's the whole, like Jesus. But like, you can't there's so many there's so many problems with this. One, it's a character that kinda can't be gender bent because it generally male characters are seen as or can be more seen as more malevolent, more more horror inspiring, more having that kind of psychopathic tendency. Legitimately, you find more psychopaths in men.
The Ice Warrior:Like, it it all, like, kind of compounds. And that's kind of like I mean, it doesn't even fit, like, with the backstory. The backstory being that Voldemort's Voldemort's mother getting the child, getting the getting the the second Tom, like getting like Yep. Getting to have the physical manifestation of her of her love interest, like and then all of the trauma that it kinda compounds with that, and there's just so much to it that gets missed out. It's just it's Tom
Thundernerd 1:Riddle. And and it just it it is. Just it's yeah. It's like how and so I saw someone and I know, they they were they were making like a not a petty argument, but just like they were a very nitpicky like, oh, and but it you know, they're like, how how are we gonna get the enneagram in, you know, Tom Marvellau riddle I am Lord Voldemort in Chamber of Secrets? How are gonna get that?
Thundernerd 1:Are we gonna we gonna find a female name? We're gonna come up with something that just also fit? Like, it's just and that's a nitpicky thing, but the what the point that they're trying to say is like, why are we doing this? Why are we actually doing this? And and it isn't needed.
Thundernerd 1:So I saw that. I I thought you would have that same
The Ice Warrior:look, I I think everyone does.
Thundernerd 1:I think everyone does.
The Ice Warrior:They wanna if they wanna cast if they wanna cast a a trans man, fuck yeah. Go for it. I don't care. It has to be a like, the thing is is that it has to have that kind of malevolence that a male only really can It just to me to the role Yeah. Generally.
Thundernerd 1:I I think for me, it's just who is who is like, how how is this coming about? I'm trying to figure this out. So we're all sitting around in the green room and we are we are talking about the new Potter that we need to make a success, you know, the other films are some of the most successful film. It's it's one of the most successful film series of all time, like not one grossed under 600,000,000 almost, I believe. I be wrong about that fact checking, but I'm pretty sure
The Ice Warrior:it was all like over 708 And this
Thundernerd 1:was back in the day when that you didn't see those numbers, right? Now who is sitting around going, okay, we've got to make this work, people are already offside with this. We've said it's gonna be book accurate. Like that that's one of the reason we're doing it actually, it's gonna be book accurate.
The Ice Warrior:Book accurate. Gonna get Already got a problem with so much of that.
Thundernerd 1:Already a problem with that. We'll do a black snake, we'll do a female Vomimol. And are we not in a climate where you need to think more about when you are doing diversity because it is authentic, right, and makes sense?
The Ice Warrior:Makes sense.
Thundernerd 1:Or Yeah. Are we doing it to do the old tick the box? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I I I should never be that because if it is, people are getting sick of it and they'll call it out. You've got to pick your moment.
Thundernerd 1:When is it? And there's a lot of other roles that you can do that no one would question. Yeah. A lot. There's a fucking lot.
Thundernerd 1:I give me Seamus Finnegan. Yep. Wouldn't blink an eye. Give Armani. Armani?
Thundernerd 1:I can get Classic point. Because JK Rowling did this.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. JK Rowling did this with Cursed Child. Can get on board with black. She never said anything about Armani not being black. She can be black.
The Ice Warrior:Like, that's the thing, like, that's picking the money.
Thundernerd 1:There's a difference between Granger This. Yeah. There's a difference between Hermione being black and Severus State being black. There is a difference. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:And there is a
The Ice Warrior:Oh, massive. Massive. Hermione doesn't get fucking hung up a tree. Yeah. You could make you could make for example, you could make Ron into Regina, you know, like, know, as an example.
The Ice Warrior:You could have Ron be female and that doesn't change the story. It doesn't change the character. It doesn't have any actual effect.
Thundernerd 1:It kind of does. But but but I get what you're saying. I mean, I I think that Harry having that male friend, I think it does change things, but I do get what you're getting at when you say that. Like, it's not it's not like like even that I would not be on board with that. However, there is a difference even between that and snipe.
Thundernerd 1:There's a there's a vast difference
The Ice Warrior:between that. Like a black snipe. If you had to have agenda if you had to have
Thundernerd 1:If you had to have a gender one change over a black snake versus what, you you would you would you would choose that.
The Ice Warrior:Oh, between that and Voldemort. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I think you'd choose that even then.
Thundernerd 1:Know, if you had to if you had to
The Ice Warrior:choose a gender bent character, I'm gonna go with that. Like
Thundernerd 1:Over that option. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:You could you could you could genderbang you could genderbang Harmony and Ron.
Thundernerd 1:I mean You still get the same dynamics. You get the same dynamics for the genders. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:No. You're right. You you the same You the same three with this with the same amount of boys, same amount of girl, but it would just change I mean, for what purpose? I don't know. But I get what you're saying.
Thundernerd 1:I get what you're saying like that would Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:So It would change absolutely nothing.
Thundernerd 1:I mean
The Ice Warrior:What about the story? What about what about the actual story, the main story changes?
Thundernerd 1:The main story.
The Ice Warrior:Tell me. Tell me anything that actually happens that affects the outcome of the story
Thundernerd 1:in way. Sub things like, you know, Victor or Lavender all of
The Ice Warrior:a sudden being lesbian or gay,
Thundernerd 1:like Victor Crumb or whatever. I I can't think of like, I can't think of
The Ice Warrior:You don't main have to line to have bend them.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I I yeah. I can't think of mainline story stuff that it changes.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. It it affects nothing. Like Robin, Hermione, can't say. They're the same characters. They're the same characters.
The Ice Warrior:That's what I'm saying.
Thundernerd 1:It just means that there's
The Ice Warrior:like one yeah. Girl that the family
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I could say I I yeah.
The Ice Warrior:But like You could turn around and make Ginny a boy. I mean then what And then what changed the dynamics slightly.
Thundernerd 1:Look. Let's get let's get it back to this. Does it change it? No. Can we just keep it as the books say?
Thundernerd 1:We probably can. We probably can, and there's gonna be plenty of characters away from the main. You're Seamus and shit where you can change whatever the fuck you want and no one would look bad on eyelid. They wouldn't. And if they did, then I don't know what to say.
Thundernerd 1:I'm still like a bit about Warwick Davis being back, but I guess we see what happens.
The Ice Warrior:I don't like that. I I I like one. I love him as an actor Yeah. But don't play the same role again. The exact same role.
The Ice Warrior:Decades later, have someone else do it, please for the love of God.
Thundernerd 1:If if they if he ends up being the only one, I can say, okay, you had a little wink wink, nudge nudge, even though I don't love it. You I I could go, you've had a little wink wink, nudge nudge thing to say it's a But if they do it again, if it if this becomes a thing where more, it's gonna be a problem, a real problem. It's already not I
The Ice Warrior:don't I don't mind it. I don't actually, now you mentioned that. If it's the only one
Thundernerd 1:If it's the only
The Ice Warrior:Whitwick is not a major character. This is not this is not this is not like
Thundernerd 1:I think
The Ice Warrior:Daniel Radcliffe coming back to play it. Like No. This is it's Flitwick. He's not in the he's not in the show. He's not in the books that often.
The Ice Warrior:He really isn't. Also, I fucking love his original design, but, know, that's just me.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, yes. Same same to what from from
The Ice Warrior:Lost Versus. So much better. Yeah. The Albert the Albert Einstein design? Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Golden. Then his,
Thundernerd 1:like, fucking beetle like haircut design, like his little he's he looks like Patrick Tratton.
The Ice Warrior:You mentioned that original design
Thundernerd 1:Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Like throwing down in the battle of Hogwarts? Oh.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, have hilarious. But no, I agree with you that like so I would say with him, if that ends up being the only I I think the problem with it is the precedent that that sets. It sets the thing that oh, you could bring back more. And that's where I had that problem with it. Anyway, so let's move on from that.
Thundernerd 1:We've we've spent too much time on that one. Sorry, people. Yeah. Hope you enjoyed that. So now I wanna talk about new Bond film.
Thundernerd 1:Reportedly according to Deadline I was reading, reportedly going to be a prequel on early Bond's career as a Royal Navy commander. Can I can I jump in with this one first?
The Ice Warrior:Oh, please.
Thundernerd 1:I don't love it. Can I tell you why? Because we're already getting we're already getting one double o seven First Light Yeah. Which he's playing which is a younger Bond before his double o agent status. A different universe.
Thundernerd 1:In a different universe. And secondly
The Ice Warrior:In a timeline.
Thundernerd 1:We started Casino Royale with Craig in 2006 when he he it was his first, like, you know, he was he we didn't see, like, him prior prior double o agent, but we did see him get the double o status, and then that was it. Can I just see James Bond kicking some fucking ass? Is that so much to say? That I wanna see o o seven kicking some ass, man. I'm getting sick of the preagles.
Thundernerd 1:I'm getting sick of the the origin stories. It's like the superhero thing. And even more so with Bond, I have never when no one's no one has seen the Bond, and no one cares about it. They care that Bond is Bond. I don't wanna see the whole, before he was this, he was this.
Thundernerd 1:It's like, we're getting that in the game, and that's in a different universe, and I'm happy to see it in that universe. Happy to see it. But are we gonna do it in the film as well? So that's one thing. Now the other thing with Bond I don't know if you saw this.
Thundernerd 1:So apparently, they've released like the Denis Villeneuve has put out the kind of thing of, oh, this is what I'm looking for in the Bond. It's a fresh face, so not a established actor, I'm going to assume is what that's suggesting. British Isles is where they're saying, so it's gotta be from that well, I I don't mind that. I I like that. I like that.
Thundernerd 1:I don't wanna see an American play Bond.
The Ice Warrior:Oh, hell no. Americans Americans should never touch it. Like, I'd love to see an Australian actor go up there and play Bond with an accent. Like Well, a British accent. That's fine.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. But but and maybe even put because that's also part of the Commonwealth, like, maybe that is linked all. It's linked.
The Ice Warrior:That's what I'm saying.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. In his thirties, like, his early thirties to late twenties is what they're saying. I don't mind that, because it means you could go, like, let's get him for a few films, not like cast someone who's late thirties and is only gonna stick around for a few films. Like, get someone who's gonna stay for maybe Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Four to five films, but I think that you have to you gotta try and release these films more frequently than they are being at the moment. They need to be every two years at at minimum. Minimum two years because That's
The Ice Warrior:hard to do though for a Bond film.
Thundernerd 1:Well, they used to do it. They used to do it. There was less budget, but they would do it every year. One Bond film a year would come out. And now, we've we've slowly we've gone into the Pierce Brosnan that had them frequently.
The Ice Warrior:Those two
Thundernerd 1:More expensive, but I just think that if you've got a machine like Amazon that's pumping them out and it's not a family business anymore like it was, I feel like they've got the time where they could go and the money to go True. We can get the resources, whereas before it was all family run, and now this is the first time. So I feel like they need to do that. Now, what what else have I got for you here? Film.
Thundernerd 1:You haven't seen weapons yet, have you?
The Ice Warrior:No. Haven't seen weapons yet is on the list. I will say fully agree with you about the Bond thing, by the way. Like you agree with that? Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Don't like, don't it is he is James Bond double o seven. Don't give us James Bond.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Like, that's not Bond. Bond is double o seven Bond. Like, we can touch on, we can see, we can get flashlight, we can do all that kind of stuff. If he's not double o seven, dear God, by at least the end of the goddamn movie, what are we doing? He doesn't have the experience?
The Ice Warrior:The he doesn't have the he doesn't have the life experience to be walking around like a suave Bond. We're not getting suave Bond. We're already getting at the we're already getting the cocky attitude stuff in the game, which is already a different timeline anyway. And it's fuck it.
Thundernerd 1:Games the game's doing it. Leave the game alone. Let it do it and do your own thing and make a sick on film. Anyway. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:Weapons director Zach Craig confirmed he's working on a prequel that will expand on the universe. Yeah. Look look, I won't I'm not gonna spoil it here, but what he's looking at doing the prequel around is probably, you know, one of the standout performances of that film. So when you see it, we can talk about that more. So it's not a terrible idea for a prequel, and when I thought about it, after I saw it and I thought, hope they don't do a sequel to this, I thought, you know what?
Thundernerd 1:This is probably one of the only times I would say that a prequel you could do and it would work.
The Ice Warrior:Prequel could work. Yeah. It's
Thundernerd 1:it's got such dense stuff in there that a prequel could work more than a sequel. So I was thinking, oh, how would they will they make a sequel? They shouldn't. They shouldn't because it'll butcher what is a good film and they'll just do it for money. And then I thought, if anything, if they go with anything, prequel, and it that is what they're saying here.
Thundernerd 1:So does it need a prequel? 100% it doesn't. Would the prequel be served better than a sequel? IMO, yes. So that's one thing.
Thundernerd 1:Moving on, Tom Holland. Do I have any do I have any oh, I've I had a little bit of news on Spider Man, little something I saw, you probably saw it as well. Spider Man, Brand New Day. Well, he he cracked his head or something, didn't he, a stunt? That was one
The Ice Warrior:thing that happened. They delayed filming. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:It wasn't overly serious though, was it? They just like stopped the filming for the No. No. Yeah. Don't think it was overly serious.
Thundernerd 1:As far as I'm aware I saw a rumor about the film come up, brand new day rumor, claiming that an Avenger killed Peter Parker's parents, Hulk. So they're looking at going down that. Apparently, that's been done in the comics before where Parker's parents in one of the comics iterations had been killed as as part of, like, a Hulk experiment or something. In this case, they're saying that the rumor is that's going around is that Hulk killed Peter Parker's parents during the the events of Avengers, the first Avengers film that they were like civilians, and while Hulk was raging, like, his parents died. Thoughts on that?
Thundernerd 1:Interesting. So they're suggesting the rumor is suggesting
The Ice Warrior:See that work. That he See that work in there.
Thundernerd 1:That Mark Ruffalo's Hulk will not be here's what I heard. Smark Hulk will go out the window at some point in the film. Mark Ruffalo will be one of the main villains, and that Hulk we will be seeing a more angry and violent Hulk than we've ever seen in the MCU before in this film. Interesting. What do you like that?
Thundernerd 1:Because I'm not really into the MCU, so it doesn't do anything for me, but I just wanted to see, like, from someone who's seen some of it, what does that fire you up? Or I
The Ice Warrior:see, that's a that's kind of the problem that they've they've done with Smart Hulk. It has it is something that's appeared before, but the issue is they kind of write themselves into a corner now.
Thundernerd 1:Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Because now it's they've got no there's no contention between Banner and the Hulk. Banner and the Hulk are working together so well, and they're perfect and everything's in sync. So the only thing I can see them potentially doing here is well, the only way it's going to work is if they somehow separate the two again. And they might even do The One Below All. I'm not sure if they're gonna do that particular storyline with The Green Door.
The Ice Warrior:I'm not sure if they're gonna touch on that. But they need to they need to pull Hulk out of that and just fuck him up somehow to really justify this kind of storyline. Because otherwise, it just it just it's not gonna work. It just feels cheap. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:There are other people they could use. They could quite literally use Ironheart. They've already set up that Ironheart is gonna be doing some things with Mephisto, Mephisto being the devil of the MCU. And that could be a tie in of something Ironheart has done as the next Tony Stark accidentally killing Peter's parents. That fucks with that fucks with Peter massively.
The Ice Warrior:But like, that's where they could if they did Ironheart season two and they made the focus being Ironheart taking over for Tony, and then that could then tie back into the film. Like, you could make that work a hell of a lot better than, oh, Hulk just fucking killed him. I'm not interested in that. That's just that just sucks. There's no there's no like I I'm not this is a character I know, but it's not enough for me to care.
The Ice Warrior:I don't I don't care if Hulk kills his parents. Ironheart makes a little bit more sense from a psychological perspective because Peter is just he loved Tony. Yeah. Tony was a father to him. And to have Tony's replacement, have Tony's no.
The Ice Warrior:Not usurper, but, you know, have the have the next Tony Stark come in and kill his actual parents. Crazy. But pretty sure his parents are dead in this universe anyway. I don't know what I don't know what the hell is going on. Like, I'm pretty sure they're meant to be dead, so I don't know.
Thundernerd 1:What are you talking about, Peter's? Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why is he living with his Aunt May? I don't know if it's ever mentioned, but like
Thundernerd 1:No. No. No. They're meant to be dead. But no.
Thundernerd 1:So what they're saying sorry. I don't know the if rumor is saying that the parents were killed as part of the original February Avengers film. It's saying that they were like, maybe on the streets or something, and when Hulk was raging, they were like, you know, what what's the word for it?
The Ice Warrior:Well then, how does this come out and why is it coming out now? That's a good Why is a thing now?
Thundernerd 1:I don't know. That's a good question.
The Ice Warrior:How's In universe. In universe. They're like three years ahead of us.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. So how how is it coming out?
The Ice Warrior:So it's like 2028 for them. Yeah. I'm pretty sure.
Thundernerd 1:So what what's And like, what happens
The Ice Warrior:Why the fuck is he coming out now?
Thundernerd 1:I don't know.
The Ice Warrior:When everyone's forgotten who he is?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I don't know. Don't know. I guess we
The Ice Warrior:2028, 2029, whenever it's gonna be taking place, that's going to be canonically almost eighteen years after potentially, like seven sixteen to eighteen years after. No.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. No. It's it's it's just one of those classic examples of like, oh, no. I found out that, you know, my parents died because of a Hulk when he was raging. Bruce, I'm gonna get you for this.
Thundernerd 1:And then and then Bruce goes, Peter, I can't remember. I I was a a different man. It doesn't it's like, I can't remember when I'm going through that mode when I'm raging. Like, it's like, you know, I don't know. It just seems a bit anyway, look, I'll leave
The Ice Warrior:We already dealt with that kind of rage though too for like if if Peter turns around and does that in the in the last movie where he learns that lesson from the other Spider Man. And it kinda just devalues the entire thing if they turn around and make that storyline.
Thundernerd 1:That's a great point. If that if that happens and he goes on the road, like, he literally got that lesson from Toby's Spider Man in in No Way Home. Yeah. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Literally. It just takes Literally takes that redundancy to nothing.
Thundernerd 1:Yep. Okay. Gaming. I think we move on to Before some we do. But yeah,
The Ice Warrior:you got some info? I've got some film news.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Please. Please. So
The Ice Warrior:Demon Slayer Infinity Castle, we touched on this
Thundernerd 1:before. Of course. Is it out? Have you seen it?
The Ice Warrior:Oh my god, have I seen it.
Thundernerd 1:Has
The Ice Warrior:you I've read seen the manga, so I know it's coming.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:It has got a 98% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Thundernerd 1:Tomatoes. Yep.
The Ice Warrior:The from the Tomatometer and the Pocaw meter. Looking at
Thundernerd 1:that out there. Mhmm.
The Ice Warrior:It has it is what's where's my list here? It is Did you enjoy IMDb's IMDb's rankings, it is a 179 out of the top two fifty movies of all time.
Thundernerd 1:Mhmm. When did it come out?
The Ice Warrior:Literally came out like a month ago.
Thundernerd 1:Interesting.
The Ice Warrior:If that. Did you enjoy it?
The Ice Warrior:I'll tell you
The Ice Warrior:exactly when it came out. I fucking loved it. It was great.
Thundernerd 1:It was fantastic. Was it better than
The Ice Warrior:you host? September September 12. September 12. So it's not even a month ago.
Thundernerd 1:Are you are you you urging people to go see it? Is it still at the cinemas, or was it limited?
The Ice Warrior:Or It might be in some cinemas, not entirely sure. Down here, it's definitely not because it's got a limited release Okay. In Tasmania because Budget everything fucking sucks down of 20,000,000. Box office, 602.8.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Which
The Ice Warrior:is kind of insane. It's still not done. I'm pretty sure the last sessions are gonna be at the end of well, literally this week. It's it's opening day because it opened in Japan in July Right. And then opened worldwide in September.
The Ice Warrior:Yep. Its opening day was eleven point eleven
Thundernerd 1:Okay.
The Ice Warrior:With 1.5 1,150,000 admissions Mhmm. Making it the highest opening day in Japanese box office history.
Thundernerd 1:Wow. Okay. So it's a it's a success. It is a success.
The Ice Warrior:Fucking yeah. Like, it's across the board good. Especially, like, if you like Demon Slayer, you're gonna love the movie. But the fact that it is only it was released in Japan in July. It released internationally two weeks ago.
The Ice Warrior:It is a hundred and seventy ninth in the IMDb's top two fifty movies of all time.
Thundernerd 1:It I think you need
The Ice Warrior:to monitor how that like imposed society like Yeah. Twelve years a slave.
Thundernerd 1:Remember remember those films have
The Ice Warrior:been there for years. Regardless of how it moves. Yeah. Regardless of how it moves.
Thundernerd 1:Mean, it's done well. It's done well. And you're saying For nominal.
The Ice Warrior:Like Yep. Like, it's it's beat out it beat out Spider Man No Way Home.
Thundernerd 1:That's crazy. On the list. Will it get a oh, No Way Home. Sorry. I was thinking of the Spider Verse.
Thundernerd 1:Will it Not far away from Spider Verse, actually. Will will it get an Oscar nomination?
The Ice Warrior:Probably for if anything else, probably the animation, I would say. Because the animation, I I can't stress this enough. It is one of the most technically beautiful works of art I've ever seen. I know. Is stunning.
The Ice Warrior:You're like, it is it is you've they've taken, like, especially with how they do the breathing styles, the particular art form they use for that, it's like very reminiscent of some, like, Japanese the high Japanese era paintings.
Thundernerd 1:Okay.
The Ice Warrior:It's fluid. It is gorgeous. There's no breath like, it is just breathtaking to watch. And to know that this has been worked on for years, and it's the painstaking detail they've put into the shots and the way the characters move, especially during the fight scenes, it's all no. I love it.
The Ice Warrior:It's fantastic.
Thundernerd 1:I love it.
The Ice Warrior:Even if you've never seen it, you need to go and see it just for this the art spectacle of it all. Just for that reason alone.
Thundernerd 1:Do you well, with gaming, can we maybe can we get your update, please? Yes. On Hollow Knight, Silksong? Absolutely. How are you finding it?
Thundernerd 1:Where are up to? Give us some details.
The Ice Warrior:Alright. So spoilers ahead, obviously.
Thundernerd 1:Spoilers ahead. Spoilers ahead for sure. What's all about that? Have you enjoyed it as much as you thought? Has it surpassed your expectations?
Thundernerd 1:Please, the floor is yours.
The Ice Warrior:So I am midway through act three. Act two kind of is where the game kinda ends, but then they've got a secret act three added onto the game.
Thundernerd 1:That's pretty cool.
The Ice Warrior:It kind of adds more stuff to it. It's pretty cool. Yeah. You could end things at the end of act two and you'd be satisfied. Mhmm.
The Ice Warrior:But there's just so much more to the game they've added to it, which is fantastic. I loved it. It has exceeded my expectations. It's still so beautifully written. It's so it's it's it's a game, and I don't get to say this.
The Ice Warrior:I really don't get to say this because this has happened very little in my lifetime. It's a game that was made with passion. It was made with love. It was made because they wanted to make a game that they themselves were going to enjoy playing as well, and
Thundernerd 1:you can
The Ice Warrior:feel that. You can really feel that in everything you do and everything you see. All the little all the all the love that different characters, all of these little side characters that you made, little storylines that they kind of go on, the the ambient music for the different areas in in different situations, certain idle animations, the fight choreography. Like, there's actual full length animation. I said this multiple times in my streams.
The Ice Warrior:There was full length cut scenes that I watched that I'm like, give me a movie. Give me a movie made in this art style, in this animation style. Give me a movie like this. Give me a series. Because it would be breathtaking.
The Ice Warrior:It would be phenomenal.
Thundernerd 1:One of the only negatives of a game like that is that, you know, one one, it comes to an end, and two
The Ice Warrior:It does.
Thundernerd 1:You get so absorbed in it that you you other parts of the life get you you just get you go tunnel vision, and you can't can't put it down, you know? Yeah. Because they're just so It's
The Ice Warrior:one of those games. Absorbing. They've they've made it they've made it a little bit easier because there were some things kind of doing
Thundernerd 1:damage Tell me about that. Why did it why did they make it easier?
The Ice Warrior:So when the game released, there were certain like environmental factors that were doing a little bit more damage than they should, And so they kind of toned that down. Okay. Because it it wasn't it was less things were hard and more. It was just kind of taken away from user experience Okay. A bit.
The Ice Warrior:Did you find They kind toned that down. I found that a little bit when I first started playing, and then when things weren't like certain certain things were doing damage when they're realistic, so it shouldn't be. It shouldn't Like, you can do a there's a sprinting ability that you that you get that if you were to run into a wall and like a hard stop wall when using this particular sprinting ability would apparently do damage in certain instances. And that kind of felt a bit
Thundernerd 1:But that's not what it was
The Ice Warrior:It just didn't feel like it wasn't it wasn't needed. Yeah. It wasn't gonna take away from the game to take that away. So certain things like that. But yeah, it's it's not for my skill level anyway, and I'm like average skill level, I didn't find it too hard.
The Ice Warrior:There were certainly some boss fights in some areas where I was like, fuck this game. This game fucking sucks. I fucking hate this shit. But I was just being salty over the fact I just kept dying in certain parts. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. But But it's
Thundernerd 1:been good. Like, it's extremely good.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. And you're Phenomenal. And
Thundernerd 1:you're getting close Close to 100 percenting? Like, if you're not if you're in that act three midway through, you've
The Ice Warrior:still got a bit to do. Fairly close. Mhmm. Well, not not not too much more. There's certain things I need to do.
The Ice Warrior:I need to get a map for like two more areas because it's got got an insane amount of it. Like, more than you think. When you think you've reached the end areas, but you've finally gotten everything out, like unlocked every other area, you fucking haven't. You just haven't. There's so many little things, so many little hidden areas, so like, I I found a hidden area literally yesterday that I just I've gone past multiple times, didn't even realize.
The Ice Warrior:Little things, little secrets, like, there's so many things being put into this game. There's definitely one I'm gonna be working on 100% ing, but now I've reached act three. I'll get to the end of act three, and then I'll probably like rein it in a little bit Yep. Kind of tackle 100% ing it kind of at my own pace.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Grounded two has well, it's it's already had that that early access available for the the new the new release, but I believe that that one will come out in the next day or so. Our base is ready, Thunder Nerds. Our base is good to go, and it's then gonna be, I guess, doing a hell of a lot of getting our healing and all that ready so that
The Ice Warrior:Very true.
Thundernerd 1:We're ready for this Axel battle. Yep. So we'll sort that. Marvel's Wolverine. Dropped its trailer.
The Ice Warrior:Yep. Time. Took a while, yeah,
Thundernerd 1:from when we first heard it. It was Well How long ago was that that we first got that announcement trailer? Couple of years. Gotta be a couple of years. What did you think of the trailer?
The Ice Warrior:I mean Oh. It was good. It looks like I'm a little I'm a little tired of
Thundernerd 1:I'm a little tired
The Ice Warrior:of that particular art style. I'm not gonna lie. Like, there's so there's so many games that have come out that are that are like that, and it's I really hope they kind of tidy it up because it looks like a worse version of Spider Man. It doesn't look as good as Spider Man does, especially Spider Man two. I'm like Okay.
Thundernerd 1:The iceberg is taking too wow.
The Ice Warrior:I worry that there's been so much we've gotten so much Wolverine content over the years. I worry about what could they do in this game that's gonna draw me in from a story perspective. I worry about the is the is the gameplay loop? Is the combat going to be engaging enough? Or is it just gonna be a, oh, we're gonna do a Tekken thing here?
The Ice Warrior:Like, because I heard I heard the the way the combos work are gonna be like, healing is gonna be directly related to how, like, how you perform certain combos and everything. So as to kind of nerf his ability to basically heal from fucking anything, because that's what's does because he doesn't die.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I I saw people say it's got like, how's how's dying in this game gonna work? Like, how's it gonna work?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. So like, you from what I hear, it is he's he's got a passive healing up to a certain amount, which would be probably like bare minimum, and you heal more based on the damage and combos you do in combat.
Thundernerd 1:Okay.
The Ice Warrior:So kind of tying it to that a little bit, but
Thundernerd 1:I think that like, it's certainly well, I mean, I'm not really a Marvel that's the thing though, right? Like I'm not I'm not a Marvel dude. I'm not a comic dude at the best of times. I guess that Batman surpasses that because it's just so, like, it's I I feel like Batman, Superman, Spider Man are those kind of ones where they're they're so in the public consciousness that Yeah. They they almost like somehow surpass it.
Thundernerd 1:Superman didn't do that for me. Like Superman, I didn't grow up watching. I watched the recent one and actually like quite enjoyed it. That was the first Superman thing I've ever seen in my life, that one by James Gunn. But Spider Man and and Batman, like, I could see a game come out of Spider Man and go, oh, I'm gonna pick that game up.
Thundernerd 1:Because I I love playing Spider Man two with Maguire on on PS two. Or I just love the idea of the web slinging. Wolverine doesn't have that effect on me. It would have to be like, I wouldn't pick it up on release like I did Spider Man, the first one from Insomniac. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:I would probably if you said to me, oh, hey, I have you played this game yet? It is so good. It's released. It's actually you know how I was saying that I thought it was gonna be not as good maybe as Spider Man, or it didn't look as good. Bro, you gotta get it because it's x y zed this, that's when I would get it.
Thundernerd 1:So Yeah. Do you think that that's gonna have a similar type of effect across the world where like
The Ice Warrior:I think so.
Thundernerd 1:I wonder.
The Ice Warrior:Well, I think and and we're I was gonna touch on this a little bit later in the gaming segment anyway. I think gamers are starting to get a bit of gaming fatigue. And a lot of it is due to the fact that this game's gonna cost like a 125 fucking dollars Australian to pick up. It's going to, if not more. Like, I I was thinking of picking up Ghost of Yotei because I was like, you know what?
The Ice Warrior:This game looks amazing. Yep. All reports are coming in that it's better than Tsushima. Like, Eric Hsieh does a really good job. Like, there's so many things about it that look fantastic.
The Ice Warrior:Realized, oh, shit. It's a PS five exclusive. I've got a PS five, so that's not an issue. But I was like, I kinda wanted to play it on PC, even though I was gonna be using a PS five controller to play it
Thundernerd 1:on PS seven anyway. Yeah. You're you're thinking more of like frame rate and like the the game Well,
The Ice Warrior:not just that, but like streaming capabilities Oh, Gotcha. And ease of use and a whole bunch of other stuff. But then I looked at it. PS five exclusive. It's a $125 Base edition.
The Ice Warrior:Fuck that. I'm not spending a $125 on a game. Not that like collector's editions and things like that are a different story. The base digital edition, digital edition of this game is a $125. Catch me never fucking touching that.
The Ice Warrior:It just turned me off massively. Games are getting so expensive to the point where I can't justify spending that much on a game, especially if I don't know I'm gonna be like, that is a game I'd have to 100% to say turn around and say, I barely am breaking even with my moneys with my money. I'd have to be spending a hundred and twenty hours on it to break even fast. How good was the first one?
Thundernerd 1:Would you say that it it was good but not good enough to warrant that price point? No. Really?
The Ice Warrior:No way in hell. No way in hell. There are
Thundernerd 1:very few games. That much. Because because the thing
The Ice Warrior:is I'll tell
Thundernerd 1:I'll tell this. If you said to me, oh, base is 89 and the the full version's 125, you go, oh, okay. That that that makes sense. Can I tell you this? Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:You're right though. The games are becoming so expensive. And when I have a game like Baldur's Gate show up for $89, how I'm comparing other games to the the content that I get from Baldur's Gate. I'm going $89 in Baldur's Gate gets me over seventy plus hours of gameplay, and I'm not even in act three yet. And I have got heaps of extra content to do.
Thundernerd 1:Not enough games have the quality to match the quantity that we're that of what they of what they cost these days. Would you agree with that? Like, we we
The Ice Warrior:Oh, 110%. 110%.
Thundernerd 1:So they they released an early idea, I I believe. I think that I don't know if it leaked in a thing or if I don't think it's on pre order, but it may be something leaked about the new Bond game. Have you seen what the special edition is looking to cost? Probably like 300. 320 USD.
Thundernerd 1:Fuck off. For the the for the collector's What the f could be in that game that justifies a $320 price
The Ice Warrior:point, bro? I can't with this fucking shit.
Thundernerd 1:That's a console
The Ice Warrior:cost. Ghost dude, digital the digital deluxe edition of Ghost of Yotei is a 140. A $140, dude. It's a 140 doll it's 15 extra dollars, don't get me wrong, and you get a little bit of DLC. Oh, not DLC, but like
Thundernerd 1:you get access to a few
The Ice Warrior:different things. No. No. It's like basic shit that
Thundernerd 1:How can
The Ice Warrior:they get sold that's fine. But a 125 Australian dollars. I it's the people who are buying this don't have to justify spending a $125. They've got more than enough to spend. If you've got money to burn, buy this game.
The Ice Warrior:Go buy this game. If you are, I don't know, like 90% of the fucking player base that don't have a $125 to just burn on a game, like, this isn't this isn't even this isn't even a popular series popular series yet. This isn't like a like Ghost of Tsushima, fantastic game. It did really well. It's not a it's not a Ratchet and Clank.
The Ice Warrior:It's not a Jack and Daxter. It's not any of those things where it is a like, I I would spend a $125 on a new Jack and Daxter game if it was gonna be fucking amazing, if we knew it was gonna be phenomenal. Because it's a tried and true. It is a like, it's it's one of the OGs. It's like it's it's all of these things.
The Ice Warrior:Right? Yeah. I'd I'd barely be able to justify that. But it as much as I love Ghost of Tsushima, and I know Ghost of Yotei is gonna be amazing, I know it, it's a PS five exclusive. It is a 125 Australian.
The Ice Warrior:I just can't. It is too much money. It's too much money. That is more than what most people most people earn in one day.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It's just a lot.
The Ice Warrior:It's a lot of money for
Thundernerd 1:the entire day stay. For the common man, that is a lot of money to say, hey, like and and because then you've got a best believe look, kinda like you said before, like, you've got to back up that that that's worth my money, if that's the case. Because other like, if it's not, it's not gonna get my dollar. Because I I I'm gonna find something that's not. I'm gonna find an indie Steam game for $20 that looks really sick and and play that because Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:It's pricey.
The Ice Warrior:And that's the thing that's the thing about this as well is to get the most out of this, you'd need to have a PS five Pro. You would need to have
Thundernerd 1:The best TV.
The Ice Warrior:A good PS five controller. You'd need to have a, like To get that experience. One twenty hertz. Like, you'd need to that I understand what PlayStation does with their audio and visual capabilities and really full immersion into the game. I got the chance to play Horizon Zero Dawn with on a PS five with the the right headset on, with the right controller on, with everything.
The Ice Warrior:And it was a very beautiful experience. It was fantastic. But this is premium high end gaming Yeah. You need to do at this point. To to to get a PS five Pro, the the controllers, the right headset, the audio profile setup, and like all all of that to get the pure most out of this game, you'd have to spend a hundred and twenty five fucking hours in.
The Ice Warrior:Like, if it can't and and I saw this journal rule once, and I've I love it. Okay. A game costs what it should if you can spend that amount of hours per dollar in it.
Thundernerd 1:That's a great that is a great rule of thumb for gaming.
The Ice Warrior:If you're gonna charge a $125, you better get an an
Thundernerd 1:a enormous 125. No. It can't be like Minimum 125.
The Ice Warrior:I'm coming full completion. Yeah. Minimum 125. Minimum. It has to be Yep.
The Ice Warrior:Hundred and twenty five hours of enjoyable.
Thundernerd 1:Gameplay without me grinding for the extra achievement shit. That's what it should be. Yep. And I can say that I'm gonna get way more than $89 worth in Baldur's Gate at a base level, then I'll get way more hours than that out of it by the end of it.
The Ice Warrior:So I'll pay a $125 for any Larian game at this point. They have impressed me so fucking much.
Thundernerd 1:100% I'm with you on that. But but that's the quality. That's quality.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Base game when it released. Right? Yep. I think it was like a little bit little bit more expensive.
The Ice Warrior:Think it was about a $100 or something like anyway. I'd pay that. I'd pay that. Base game when it released.
Thundernerd 1:Yep.
The Ice Warrior:Right? Yep. Compare it to how it is now. Big updates, the DLC, all of the content they've made, all the shit they've done for free.
Thundernerd 1:Mic drop.
The Ice Warrior:Yep. Huge train of applause for him. Fuck. I just They're changing the game,
Thundernerd 1:and people are gonna have to match it at some point. They get they complain about it all they want, but they they are going to have to start matching it with
The Ice Warrior:Well, that's the thing. They complained about it when it first released. Yeah. They're like they're literally gaming developers across the world went, you can't raise the bar, now people are gonna expect more of us. That's not even a joke.
The Ice Warrior:That's literally what happens.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. And and and then you have to
The Ice Warrior:say, And gamers well are starting to get fucking sick of it.
Thundernerd 1:There you go.
The Ice Warrior:What a surprise.
Thundernerd 1:There you go. GTA six. What are you gonna pay for what do you think what do you think that game's gonna cost on release just quietly?
The Ice Warrior:Oh, that's gonna be like a $150 when it releases. Oh my god. They're not releasing this for anything less than a 100%.
Thundernerd 1:To be fair. Be fair.
The Ice Warrior:Guarantee you.
Thundernerd 1:To be fair. It will have the content in it to justify that price point. If we're talking hours played, it 100% will. There's no doubt.
The Ice Warrior:I hope so. It will. I fucking hope so. This game has been in development longer than I think any other game.
Thundernerd 1:It has. I think it is. I I I I don't see a world look, maybe there will maybe it will. Maybe there's a world where it comes out and people go, that was shit, but I don't think that's gonna happen. I dare say we're gonna come out and go, that was fucking unbelievable.
Thundernerd 1:I wanna bring this up quickly. This one. This is you may have seen it. Steven what's his last name? Og?
Thundernerd 1:Steven Og, who plays Trevor in GTA five. You probably saw this doing the rounds of Oh, yeah. Yeah. You would have seen this. I'll play it here.
The Ice Warrior:How excited are you for GTA six? I feel nothing inside. Really? I'm not a gamer. Really?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. So they're all be absent. I've never played a video game. Have you played GTA five at all? No.
The Ice Warrior:No. So I feel absolutely nothing. I think someone said yesterday at one point you should play GTA five. I said, why? They said, because it's so great.
The Ice Warrior:And I said, well, one day you should read Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment. And he went completely blank. Set the fuck up.
Thundernerd 1:Do you
The Ice Warrior:know who Dusty Anderson is?
Thundernerd 1:Theodore Dusty Anderson? So that's it. What do you think about this? I don't think this is terrible. I've seen people shooting the guy down.
Thundernerd 1:I mean, he's an actor. He's he's done fucking TV shows. He's an actor. He's not a gamer. You're asking the question, shut it down and say, okay, he said he isn't a gamer.
Thundernerd 1:Let me leave it there. To then press it on and then have him go, well, why don't you read Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment then? Like, is that so unreasonable? I don't think that's snobbish. That's just him saying, I like reading.
Thundernerd 1:This is what I'm into. I see that as art. I see that as the best. You can say that GTA five is the best game. For me, it was it got me on the map.
Thundernerd 1:I think I think it did. I think it got him on the map, but I don't think he done it. He he was acting before that, I think, but that got him on the map where he started to book some proper TV stuff from there. But other than that, you go, well, okay. He's an actor, man.
Thundernerd 1:It was a job for him. He walked into a studio, talked into a mic like we're doing now, got paid for it, walked out, and that was it. It's not even really news, just thought I'd kinda bring it up on it to see what you thought about Yeah. I don't think that that's crazy that he would say that. I think, my friend, I think I think I'm done with all the news that I had unless you had anything else because we've got to move we've got to move on because we've got some stuff to get into.
Thundernerd 1:Thoughts?
The Ice Warrior:Very much. Very much so. Alright.
Thundernerd 1:We did the spinning wheel some time ago. Mhmm. Right? So let's get into this. Guess what it means.
Thundernerd 1:Go on. Draw that thing. The spinning wheel landed on. Draw that thing. Now I'm gonna explain how this is gonna work to everyone actually, to yourself, to everyone.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna put on a timer. I'm gonna put it on I'm gonna get I'll I'll I'll watch it. Now the timer, maybe maybe I'll do it for like myself.
Thundernerd 1:You'll you'll do it for when I'm because one of us is gonna have to be focused on drawing. You're not gonna look at this. What we'll do Yeah. Is Huddersfield Girl has sent The Ice Warrior and I in separate Discords, don't open it yet, send us messages of films to draw. You can draw it however you want, but you've got to try and get them to guess what this film is.
Thundernerd 1:Now, you've got five to get through, and you've gotta get through it in five minutes. Or is that two do you think that's do you think that's too because that's like a film Five to five minute. Yeah. A minute a
The Ice Warrior:minute Like, to that's fair. Now,
Thundernerd 1:if you if you can get through your whole list, let's say you get through one, guess it right. You go sweet, make a new one, you get straight into
The Ice Warrior:it. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I'm gonna what we'll do is after each one, if we as soon as we get it right, the timer must be paused. Okay? The timer must
The Ice Warrior:be Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:That way it gives you time to
The Ice Warrior:get
Thundernerd 1:ready. One of us will take the headphone off, let the Thunder Nerds know what you're about to draw, so the other one doesn't know what it is. We come back, go hit the play on the thing, we go again. The guesser the guesser does the timer. So the person drawing just focuses on their drawing.
The Ice Warrior:Yep. I like that. I like that.
Thundernerd 1:Would you like to go first or would you like me to go first?
The Ice Warrior:I'll I'll go first. I'll go first.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. So you're gonna draw first? Okay. I'll I'll go first.
The Ice Warrior:I'll draw first.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. So first first thing to do is go to your Discord messages. Now you're gonna wanna open you've you've I'll get the timer ready. Got my iPhone timer here. Yep.
Thundernerd 1:Now, share your screen and get the Paint app ready. Okay?
The Ice Warrior:I've got the I've got the paint app ready. Don't you worry.
Thundernerd 1:So share your screen. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna make this full screen. Now,
The Ice Warrior:I We really should be running this at like better quality, but I don't have Nitro and I can't be
Thundernerd 1:just That's alright. It looks fine. It looks honestly fine for me. I I wouldn't tell the difference. Now okay.
Thundernerd 1:Now, we'll start the timer soon. I'll I'll tell you when. I'm going to just quickly lower the volume on your fader. I will not hear what you're telling the thunder nerds. And then once I've lowered it, I'll give you a thumbs up.
Thundernerd 1:You let them know. You give me the thumbs up. I'll I'll put you back up. Okay?
The Ice Warrior:Alright. Alright. Okay, guys. So we're gonna be starting with Trey. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:You can come back.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:This is gonna be interesting. This is gonna
Thundernerd 1:be This This is the first one. You ready for me to start the timer? Yes. Let's do this. Timer's on.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. He's drawing a he's drawing a green circle with ears. It's it's ears.
The Ice Warrior:I'm terrible at this. Cheers.
Thundernerd 1:What is this? It's a bunny? It's an Easter bunny. It's a Yoda. Baby Yoda.
Thundernerd 1:Yoda. Star Wars. No. No. No.
Thundernerd 1:No. I gotta change this.
The Ice Warrior:It's just me.
Thundernerd 1:Hold on. Hold on. This is so cursed. Oh, it's a it's a Kermit the frog. It's it's it's angry.
Thundernerd 1:It's scared. Nervous. It's a green person.
The Ice Warrior:It's what the fuck? It is
Thundernerd 1:used. What is this? Gremlins. Gremlins. No?
Thundernerd 1:No. No. No. It's it's a it's it's in a it's a it's a phase. Oh, Shrek.
Thundernerd 1:Shrek. Ogre. Yes.
The Ice Warrior:Shrek. Fuck.
Thundernerd 1:Shrek. Okay. Stop. Stop. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Stop, Thomas. Stop the phone.
The Ice Warrior:What I'm going for.
Thundernerd 1:Fuck. Okay. You're going for the ogre on the on the okay.
The Ice Warrior:I went I went for the ogre sign. Makes sense.
Thundernerd 1:Went for ogre sign. Went for the ogre sign. Easy. It's just so thick.
The Ice Warrior:I couldn't I couldn't draw like thicker lines or
Thundernerd 1:anything else. Screenshot it? Can you screenshot that? Screenshot it because I want to put these up when I'm Oh,
The Ice Warrior:through. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on.
The Ice Warrior:Oh my god. That's good stuff. Yeah. That's good. She's like, baby, yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Baby, is it no. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I've I've paused the time. It's on the notes.
The Ice Warrior:Let's do
Thundernerd 1:You're a minute nine in. Okay. Did you screenshot that? I need that you to send me that later.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll I'll get that saved.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Save that. Just save it to your desk, so it just and then you send it to me later. Oh my god, Thunder Nerds. That was cursed.
Thundernerd 1:I went what did I say? Gremlins? I thought maybe Yoda. I thought I thought Kermit at one point, god forbid.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. You did. You did. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Now let's
Thundernerd 1:Now what you can do is you can press file new and that will save it first.
The Ice Warrior:Okay. Cool. Did you save it? Yeah. Saved it.
The Ice Warrior:Saved it.
Thundernerd 1:Great. Great. Yeah. And just do new. Great.
Thundernerd 1:And zoom it in. Alright. So Alright. Okay. Here we go.
Thundernerd 1:So I'm gonna let me know when you're ready for the time to go back on. You're at a minute nine so far.
The Ice Warrior:I need to bring up my Yep. List. Okay. Okay. Are you gonna go off mute?
The Ice Warrior:Or you like bring the
Thundernerd 1:Oh, sorry. Yeah. I'll go I'll go off mute. Okay. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:Hang on.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yep. Cool. Alright. So next up, for fuck's sake, is going to be Jurassic Park.
The Ice Warrior:I don't know how the fuck I'm gonna do this one.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I'm back. Okay. Are you ready for me to start the timer? Bullshit.
Thundernerd 1:Shit. I got it.
The Ice Warrior:Are you ready? Sure. Go for it. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:And your time starts
The Ice Warrior:now. Oh, that's okay. That's not nice.
Thundernerd 1:He's drawing a he's drawing a brown line.
The Ice Warrior:Why is he doing this? Hold on.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, no. You gotta go to oh, no. It's tech difficulties. Fuck. It's it's gotta be a paintbrush.
Thundernerd 1:Paintbrush, the pen the pen up pen above you. Down below. Below to the left. No. To the left.
Thundernerd 1:That's the yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. He's drawing in.
Thundernerd 1:It's a it's a a brown oval. It's it's a table. An ant. An animal. A four legged an insect.
Thundernerd 1:Bug's life. Claw. It's it's a I'm gonna
The Ice Warrior:do I can't fucking do anything else
Thundernerd 1:about it. It's it's smiling. He's bent over. It's a bent over smiling man. He's evil.
Thundernerd 1:Doctor evil. A monster. A werewolf. American werewolf in London. He's got claws.
Thundernerd 1:Wolverine. Jaws. What is this? Like pointing is pointing. It's a
The Ice Warrior:I fucked that up, broily. I
Thundernerd 1:need to see this. You need to see this. I need to put this
The Ice Warrior:on the photos.
Thundernerd 1:What is this thing? Hold on. I have a feeling mine's gonna be way worse than this.
The Ice Warrior:Let me just kind of like
Thundernerd 1:It's got a tail. It's got claws. Okay. So you hang this. Don't want to feed.
Thundernerd 1:Claws, it's a dude who's cackling. Despicable me. But he's got claws, though. Oh, he's got spikes. Wait.
Thundernerd 1:Wait. Wait. He's got spikes on his back. It's a dinosaur man? It's a Godzilla.
The Ice Warrior:Godzilla? No. I can't.
Thundernerd 1:Shit. I'm not
The Ice Warrior:gonna do this.
Thundernerd 1:Pointing to claws. Iron claw. Iron
The Ice Warrior:fuck this. I got Do
Thundernerd 1:you wanna do you wanna opt to move on?
The Ice Warrior:It's Please fucking go.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Okay. Okay. I've paused it.
The Ice Warrior:I've paused it. I don't
Thundernerd 1:know. Don't
The Ice Warrior:fucking know. Don't have the two. I'm not I can't draw for shit. Oh my god.
Thundernerd 1:Tell me tell me what it is.
The Ice Warrior:It's Jurassic Park. I'm a truck to a t That's why I was trying to point to the very short claws. The very short arms. I know.
Thundernerd 1:You gotta see this. It looks like a person. Looks like a person.
The Ice Warrior:Save that. Fuck. Save really. Thought was a man. What the yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Okay.
Thundernerd 1:I thought it was a dude. I didn't realize it was gonna be a dinosaur. Oh my god. I thought it was going for like a
The Ice Warrior:Fuck.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. You're at 03:37. I'm fucked. Okay. You're at 03:37.
Thundernerd 1:I've got one so far. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:It's not epic. Right. Okay. Here we go.
Thundernerd 1:But let's let's go again. Let's go again. Okay. Jesus. I'll I'll I'll go have a look.
Thundernerd 1:I'm gonna put myself down. Give me the thumbs So up and
The Ice Warrior:we're going to be doing the Titanic. So I don't know. Well, let's fucking give it a go.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I'm I'm back. Are you ready for your timer to start?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Go for it.
Thundernerd 1:Alright. Alright. Here we go. Timer starts now. K.
Thundernerd 1:He's drawing a boat. Looks like a boat. He's drawing something blue. Now what could that be? He's scribbling the blue in water?
Thundernerd 1:Jaws. Titanic. Iceberg. Yes. Titanic.
Thundernerd 1:Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:That was quite easier. Titanic. Smart. Iceberg. Fuck.
Thundernerd 1:Smart. That's smart. Okay. The iceberg. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:That that's that's a very efficient drawing. Save that. That's actually a very efficient drawing for what you had to do. Okay. No.
Thundernerd 1:That's you've done well with that. Okay. You're you're up to that's two right. Two right four minutes and eight seconds in. Fuck.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. So you've got about a minute Yeah. To try and see if I can get whatever else is left on this list. So we're gonna have to use these ones efficiently. So I just I need to get at the moment
The Ice Warrior:I'm not doing I'm not doing this, and I'm gonna switch around the order. I'm gonna switch around the order because
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Yeah. Look, you can do okay. Let's make that thing. Whatever is on your list, you can do it in whatever order you see fit.
Thundernerd 1:Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Here we go. You're gonna get the I feel like the next one would be really hard. You probably won't get that, you probably will get the net like the last one. So Okay.
Thundernerd 1:Alright. Let's see.
The Ice Warrior:I'm gonna I'm gonna go on I'm gonna bring it down, let
Thundernerd 1:them know.
The Ice Warrior:Next on the list is going to be Harry Potter. I have an idea. We'll see how this works out.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I'm back. Oh my god. Okay. Are you ready?
Thundernerd 1:You've got under a minute for this. Are you ready for this?
The Ice Warrior:Yep. Yep.
Thundernerd 1:Yep. Your time starts now. K. He's drawing a person. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Eyes, he's smiling. Harry Potter. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Yes. Harry Potter. Smart. Very I was like, I know exactly what I gotta do for this. It's so easy.
Thundernerd 1:That was efficient. So efficient.
The Ice Warrior:Okay. Oh, shit. That's too good. That's
Thundernerd 1:too good. Okay. You've down it to three. Shit. I hope I can do as good as this.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. $4.17. You've got more to go.
The Ice Warrior:That's why I was like, I need to get this done so that way I
Thundernerd 1:like, I know the about last one that we're up to now?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Because if you can get this, this will be the fourth one. You didn't get the
Thundernerd 1:You didn't get the other. Okay. I'm go I'm bringing the down the audio down, let them know.
The Ice Warrior:Yep. Alright. Alright. So the last one is probably gonna be one of the hardest to do. It's going to be The Lion King.
The Ice Warrior:So fuck. I don't know. Actually, I might have an idea. We'll see how this goes.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. We're back. We are good to go. Make a new page. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:Are you ready to go? Did you save a photo of that?
The Ice Warrior:Yes. I had to find another one.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:I have an I have an idea. I an idea. Alright. Let's do this.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Here we go. Your time starts now. Best of luck to you. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:It's something brown. It's a cap, maybe. It's a oh, no. It's an animal. It's an animal.
Thundernerd 1:It's a cat. It's a it's a catwoman. Fox. It's a yellow sun. King.
Thundernerd 1:King cat. Garfield. It's king Lion King. Lion King. Yes.
Thundernerd 1:Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Oh my god. King cat.
Thundernerd 1:King cat.
The Ice Warrior:I was King cat. I was like, what the no. Think bigger.
Thundernerd 1:Literally. Ginkat. Ginkat. Okay. April.
Thundernerd 1:You've done that in April.
The Ice Warrior:Oh, my god.
Thundernerd 1:I was
The Ice Warrior:so worried about this one. And then I like, what the fuck am I
Thundernerd 1:gonna do
The Ice Warrior:with it? Then I was like, I'm nervous. Actually, it's way more simple.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, shit. I'm actually
The Ice Warrior:nervous for this.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Thunder Nerds. I'm gonna move myself closer. Shit. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:That was that was so funny. And then the music terrorist was like, oh, shit. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:I'm gonna stop watching you you save that photo and then turn share screen off and I will bring it up, but I just need to quickly know what I'm looking at though. And you'll need to do you'll need to do the timer as well.
The Ice Warrior:Yep. I will get the timer up.
Thundernerd 1:Oh my god. Okay. I'm gonna open Discord. Okay. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Okay. Are you ready?
Thundernerd 1:Give me a second. Give me a second. I'm gonna share my screen, and I might I'll need to I'll need you to quickly let I'll need you to just remove yourself so that people can and I'll give you a thumbs up.
The Ice Warrior:I will do so. I will make sure I can see you Yep. To the screen.
Thundernerd 1:Can't see you right now, so I I'm just gonna you just have to let me know when you can't hear me or something. You got your headset off?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. I've got the headset off now. Just do a thumbs up when I can come back.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Thunder Nerds. Spider Man for me, first up.
The Ice Warrior:Alright. You ready?
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I am ready to go.
The Ice Warrior:Your time starts now. Oh, god. What's this gonna be? It's red. The Red Riding Hood?
The Ice Warrior:I don't know. What? What is this? It's a drawing a a person out of red coloring. It's I was trying to stab someone.
Thundernerd 1:Is this
The Ice Warrior:what it's is this is this Wolverine? Is it this X Men? No. Oh, Spider Man. Oh, Spider Man.
Thundernerd 1:Stop stop the clock. Stop the clock. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Oh. I was like, is this is he drawing an arm with claws coming out of it on the side? What the fuck?
Thundernerd 1:What's the Why is the paintbrush oh, because I think I zoomed in. I didn't. I just wanna make sure that that's not like, zoom that out. How did you do it? You pulled it down, didn't you?
The Ice Warrior:I pulled it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Hang on. I just wanna get that right. I'll I'll save that. Oh, fuck.
The Ice Warrior:What have you what have you done?
Thundernerd 1:I don't know what
The Ice Warrior:I'm Just undo. Just undo. Just go back.
Thundernerd 1:Yep. Yep. Let's go back. Save. I just wanna get a screenshot of it.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. You got that I got that in thirty one seconds, so it did pretty well.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I mean, it is Spider Man is an easier one. I just feel like I didn't the colors weren't doing what I wanted. I don't know how to
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. I was having I was having a various
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I wanted to, like, get, like anyway, all good. So if I go control, shift, three. There's one. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:I've got that. Now I'll make a new one. I just wanna get that looking like
The Ice Warrior:So just drag it down. I drag it down. Yeah. All the way to the edge.
Thundernerd 1:There. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Perfect.
Thundernerd 1:Here we go. So I just wanna make sure I can get different colors here. Paint and then red. Oh, you do have
The Ice Warrior:to do a bit of clicking to get
Thundernerd 1:it right. Okay. Okay. I am let me just quickly look and I'll let the maybe take your thing off and I'll let you know when to Yep. Come back.
Thundernerd 1:I'll give you the heads up. Tell me when I'm good to go. Okay. Thunder Nerds. The next one is Ghostbusters.
The Ice Warrior:Alright. Are you ready?
Thundernerd 1:I am ready. Your time starts now.
The Ice Warrior:K. K. Giant Oval. Ghostbusters?
Thundernerd 1:Yes. Stop. Was gonna make
The Ice Warrior:a joke. It's like, is he drawing a penis?
Thundernerd 1:No. Yes. No. You know what I was going for. I was gonna do the logo.
Thundernerd 1:Yep. I was gonna I was gonna get the circle thing.
The Ice Warrior:You gotta get the ghost going. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Exactly. I'll quickly take a screenshot of that. Good. Good.
The Ice Warrior:Ten seconds. Ten seconds. Like
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Fantastic. Cool. No. You you got that really fast.
Thundernerd 1:I guess when you think ghost, like, it's in the title, isn't it? Okay.
The Ice Warrior:So Yeah. Very few it's gonna be.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Okay. Now just let me look at what else I've got here. Okay. You leave and I'll let the the Thunder Nerds know.
Thundernerd 1:Will do. I'm gonna go for Jaws.
The Ice Warrior:Alright. Are you ready, good sir?
Thundernerd 1:I am ready. The time starts
The Ice Warrior:now. Alright. It's a grey line. One big gray line. Oh, no.
The Ice Warrior:Oh, oh, we're oh, we're breaking up a little bit here with with the join. Okay. Okay. A knife. It's a knife.
The Ice Warrior:It's a shark. Is it Jaws? Yes. Oh, wow. I I can't I fully wasn't expecting that to be Jaws.
Thundernerd 1:It's okay. Yeah. It didn't change my color though. I wanted to go for the black eyes, and then I was gonna do the tail and the fin. And anyway, no.
Thundernerd 1:You you you did that.
The Ice Warrior:Damn. Damn. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Huge from you.
The Ice Warrior:You're efficient. You're smashing it out.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. The next one. Just leave and I'll let them know. This is where I need to think. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:So the next one, Thunder Nerds, is Finding Nemo.
The Ice Warrior:Alright. Cool. All good. Are you ready?
Thundernerd 1:I am ready.
The Ice Warrior:The time starts now. K. Orange. Going for an orange. Halloween, Nightmare Before Christmas.
The Ice Warrior:God. Is that a carrot? Is a carrot? Is that Easter? A hop?
The Ice Warrior:I don't know. Oh, bee? Is that a bee movie? No? Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Is the it's a fish? Oh. Oh. Right. Finding Nemo.
The Ice Warrior:Yes. I was like, what am I looking at here? What what are you
Thundernerd 1:I I was trying I was like, I need to take a hit up front to, like, fill in some orange to try and
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:And you're like, as soon as I realized it was official, I was like, oh, fuck. Fuck. It's I know what it is.
Thundernerd 1:Now, I think we're tired at the moment.
The Ice Warrior:If you get this one.
Thundernerd 1:This is the one that
The Ice Warrior:Let let me put let me put this into perspective. You've got you've burnt through a minute thirty five. You've had four minutes and twenty five seconds. You have so much time on the clock. You don't get much prep time here.
The Ice Warrior:No. So Okay. Because the whole point is not to give prep time.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yep. Okay. You leave, and I'll I'll let them know. Alrighty.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Interesting. Thunder Nerds, the last one is Toy Story.
The Ice Warrior:Alright. Are you ready, good sir?
Thundernerd 1:Yes. I have. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:So what if what if I just make really shitty guesses? You can't properly. I can do that. Can't do that. Can't do that.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Alright. Your time starts now. Okay. K. A foot.
The Ice Warrior:Leg. Oh, no. Musical my musical notes or just person? Person. Person.
The Ice Warrior:Brown. Brown's boys. Mister Bean. Oh. Oh.
The Ice Warrior:Oh. Okay. It's a cowboy. Wow. Boom.
The Ice Warrior:Hair. Fuck. This could be so good movies. Oh, dear god. Shit.
The Ice Warrior:Rango? Jesus. I don't know. Country for Old Men. No.
The Ice Warrior:Probably not. Jesus Christ. This could be so many movies. So many Kelvin movies. Oh.
The Ice Warrior:Yes. Toy
Thundernerd 1:I just I just can't change that. I was gonna do Buzz and Woody.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. Were you're gonna go for sorry. What I was going for
Thundernerd 1:the dome of Buzz and then Are you But I just I couldn't get the color of gray. Right. No. I was gonna go I was trying to get gray and do the domed helmet and then like do like him in like a stance or something.
The Ice Warrior:I didn't do that earlier. If I didn't like if I didn't think Toy Story, doing the dome and the grey would have actually fucked me up. I would have been like
Thundernerd 1:I've thrown you off, mate. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I knew.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Now you've done okay. Alright.
The Ice Warrior:What's the time? Smashed it.
Thundernerd 1:Holy shit.
The Ice Warrior:Three minutes thirty two seconds and seven milliseconds. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:You smashed it. That's huge. I will throw up Thunder Nerds. The images Whenever I get this out on socials, I'll make sure that all the images are at the end so you can reference what we were drawing there. But yeah, that is that.
Thundernerd 1:There we go. Okay. I I I I think I would love to refine this game, and we'll think about how we do this. If it's a document that's on pages, I I don't know how we do it. Huddersfield Girl sent them in Discord to us.
Thundernerd 1:I wanna see the list where you don't even get a look at the names, like, before. You just have to do one after the other after the other, and you can't because otherwise, you can start to just be thinking about it. Whereas if you could do it where as soon as I see it, okay, I've got to tell the audience and then I'm gonna go for it. That's gonna make it harder, I think. Well,
The Ice Warrior:we could we could always have her decide on the list early, and then while we're recording, just be like, hey, next one.
Thundernerd 1:Next one.
The Ice Warrior:Next one.
Thundernerd 1:And and the other thing is the other thing is, maybe it will become hard. Like, the ones that I got there, I got Lucky. So listen to this. I got I got just there Jaws, I feel like you can draw Jaws, Toy Story, Ghostbusters, Spider Man, Finding Nemo. I reckon when we get into this, if we can have some films that are a bit harder, but you know the name of Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:That like that are famously titled films like The Godfather would be hard to draw. Do you know what I mean? Like films that you know it, that's when that game that will will get that going, I think. Anyway, look
The Ice Warrior:That's Haxle Ridge.
Thundernerd 1:Exactly. And then you have to like, something like you know the name, but you it's like hard to draw than just going off Yeah. I'll draw the clownfish. That famous clownfish. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Anyway. Okay, Thunderbirds. That's one. Now, let's press on to the next one.
Thundernerd 1:Here we go. I'll come back to to you so I can see you. There you are. Here we go. Let's let's dive into this.
The Ice Warrior:You gotta stop. You're not stand. From my perspective, I don't need be the full thing. It comes in and out, and it just fucks with me. Because all I hear is you start doing a bit of it, it disappears, and it comes a thing.
Thundernerd 1:You should see his face, man. We gotta get these on video soon. We gotta get because you that you just you were spent. That is so funny.
The Ice Warrior:So fucked up.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. So IMDb Shuffle. Now let's talk about how this one's gonna
The Ice Warrior:work. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Thundernerd 1:The IMDb Shuffle, two films. We're only gonna do two each. That's four films in total in this segment. Now we have to find films for the other person, read them backwards on the cast list, and the first person to guess the film correctly with the least amount of cast named in the backwards order gets the point. Right?
Thundernerd 1:Now Indeed. Okay. So do you wanna go first? I wanna can I quickly preface a rule here? Yes.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I think that the rule needs to be that we can't go more than 10 cast members back, or Right. So first 10 cast members, or alternatively, like, back to where there's consistent gray, and and you're not seeing faces, whichever comes first.
The Ice Warrior:What if it's all the way back until yeah. No. I think I think I think we need to settle on a number because I think I think
Thundernerd 1:we settled on a number. And I'll tell you why. Because and okay. Here's the rule. Here's the rule.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. It's the first 10. However, if there is a gray amongst that 10, you've got to go back one to where the first name is that does have a photo. Because because I think otherwise, one, if it doesn't have a photo, it's very likely gonna be someone that we are never going to guess. So you've gotta Probably.
Thundernerd 1:That you've gotta even if there's one in the top 10, take that person out, go back to the next one that was in that that did have a photo. That's one thing. Two, if you go so far back the 30 down, these might be people that you and I have never heard of and how far up the list are we gonna go before we get one. So I think we say Yeah. The top 10 members.
Thundernerd 1:So do you want to go first, or do you want me to go first? Can I go first because you went first on the last one?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go for
Thundernerd 1:it. Okay. It. I'm gonna get
The Ice Warrior:ready now. I'll go first in guessing.
Thundernerd 1:I went first in guessing last time. Let's get you going first guessing this time. I'll be the one that's that's giving you the things.
The Ice Warrior:That's fair. That's fair.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I am going to do you wanna do you wanna maybe just beat it, kid, and I'll let the Thunder Nerds know and I'll give
The Ice Warrior:you the thumbs up? Wow. Wow. No. That's actually really helpful.
The Ice Warrior:Fuck you.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. The first one is Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End. So the third Pirates of the Caribbean film. See how he goes on this one. Dude, do you wanna Alrighty.
Thundernerd 1:Motherfucker over there.
The Ice Warrior:He's still
Thundernerd 1:right on Podcast time. Okay. So so okay. So the first film is this. Kidding.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Let me let me go to the cast. One, two, 345678910. Okay. Are you ready for this?
The Ice Warrior:Go for it.
Thundernerd 1:Kevin McCauley. McCauley or McCaulney? McCall Mc McNally, sorry. McNally. Mick, and then n a l l y.
Thundernerd 1:Right. Ready for the next one? Yeah. Lee Arenberg. See, it's funny, don't you, Ned?
Thundernerd 1:Because, like, we've got it it's just funny because you can see here the thought process. And there's gonna be names
The Ice Warrior:that you
Thundernerd 1:don't know, there's gonna be names that you do know.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:So that's okay. So okay. Actually, I've given you I've just gone one up, sorry, just so you know, in the top 10. Wait. +1, (234), 567-8910.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, no. I didn't. Oh, no. I did. I did.
Thundernerd 1:I've given you number 8 there, not number 9. Okay. Okay. Number nine is Mackenzie Crook.
The Ice Warrior:It just rang a bell.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I'm gonna go back now to number 7. Jonathan Price. That that's probably the first name that I recognize. I recognize Kevin, but but the the first one that I go, I definitely know it, is Jonathan.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Okay. Next one.
The Ice Warrior:Bill Nye. Bill Nye.
Thundernerd 1:Not Bill Nye. Bill Nye. Nye. Not the science guy. Not Bill Nye the science guy.
The Ice Warrior:Nye. He's in a couple of movies. Nyee. Jesus. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:I don't know. Jesus. That's throwing
Thundernerd 1:me off. Do you not know Bill Nyee? This is interesting. This is
The Ice Warrior:really started thinking I started thinking of Bill Nye movies. That's why
Thundernerd 1:I'm like, my side ons game.
The Ice Warrior:Now I'm gonna re re rethink everything. Oh, god. Okay. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Jack Davenport. Oh, fuck me. See, I don't I wouldn't know that name.
The Ice Warrior:I recognize the name. I can't think of what he's been in, but I recognize the
Thundernerd 1:name. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Give me the next one. Can have no fuck clue.
Thundernerd 1:Keira Knightley.
The Ice Warrior:Oh, shit. This is Pirates of the Caribbean. Dead Man's Chest?
Thundernerd 1:No. But no. But you are right. It's Pirates of the Caribbean. I've only realized now that this is kind of an impossibility.
Thundernerd 1:It's not an impossibility, but it it leaves you in a predicament because everyone on this list from here on out is in In all of them. Pirates two or three. So so would be a fifty fifty, and there's not one to differentiate because they are all in it. So I didn't think about that before. I apologize.
Thundernerd 1:But you've got it at Pirates of the Caribbean. I'll give you that point on Pirates of the Caribbean. If I do if we do that further, I need I'll need to make sure that there's a person that's only in a particular sequel
The Ice Warrior:Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Within that top 10 Yeah. To make it a point of difference that you could definitely get that particular one. But Pirates of the Caribbean, you've got it. You've got it out of the top 10 with number one, two, one, two, number four on the list, you got it with.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Parts of The Caribbean, that is a tick for the ice worm. Okay. Yeah. And how many guesses do we have, by the way, for this?
Thundernerd 1:For your two firms, how many guesses? Like, if you'd got something wrong, is that three guesses maybe?
The Ice Warrior:Do we wanna do we wanna just guess per person? Like, have a guess per person?
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Okay. So you've gotta you've gotta lock one solid one in and and
The Ice Warrior:We don't have don't have to lock a guess in, but you can guess once per person as you go up the list. Oh, per person. Per person. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Thundernerd 1:I think you I think it would be more interesting if you have to gather a little bit of evidence before you lock it in. So you so if you if you go for instance, you could be a big dick swinger and go interesting like, you know, I've heard this person, they write down the bottom. Why would they be down the bottom? Is this one of their first films? Or I think it might be this.
Thundernerd 1:You could make a big dick swing, but I think you get three guesses, but you can you can use them whenever you want, but you've only got three. Not one per person. Alright? Three guesses. That's it.
The Ice Warrior:I'm down for that.
Thundernerd 1:Alright. Here we go. And you're try that that you are trying you'd wanna use one a bit early because you're trying to go, can I beat the other person, get it a bit sooner? Okay. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. I'll move on. I'll move on. So that that you got it with number four, Pirates of the Caribbean.
Thundernerd 1:It was at World's End, but there was no point of difference. That's my fault. Oh, shit. I'm worried that you're not gonna know this film. Can you can you give me I'm I'm just worried.
Thundernerd 1:I'm worried that I've
The Ice Warrior:Let's give it a go. Let's give it a go.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. We'll give it a go. Okay. Let's give it a go. +1, (234), 567-8910.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Number 10 on the list is William h Macy.
The Ice Warrior:Dead man's chest. No. I'm kidding. Could you imagine? William h Macy.
The Ice Warrior:Okay. Next one.
Thundernerd 1:Mark Wahlberg is number nine.
The Ice Warrior:Mark Wahlberg. What the fuck? This slow. This slow. Mentioned you mentioned before about the Elon movies and I'm wondering if that's gonna be in Freudian slip there.
The Ice Warrior:Jesus. Oh my god. What if it's not? It's not, though.
Thundernerd 1:You've got three guesses.
The Ice Warrior:I know I have three guesses. I know I have three guesses. Shit. Go one more. Go one more.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Heather Graham. Fuck. That didn't help.
The Ice Warrior:No. No. Because he was no. Was it's titled there. Next one.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. The next one which would be what? This is number seven now. Don Cheadle. His face, he's really thinking about this one by the nerds.
Thundernerd 1:This is good. Mean, this is
The Ice Warrior:Fulberg and Don Cheadle, so far down the list, realistically.
Thundernerd 1:Where's your tell tell us where your mind's at at the moment. What do
The Ice Warrior:you think? I'm to think of I'm trying to think of a, what they've been in, but also b, why would they be so far down the list?
Thundernerd 1:Guess along at home, Thunder Nerds, because I just realized I also didn't tell you this one. Jesus. Everyone's guessing. Guess along. Could it be
The Ice Warrior:What's the one of the expendables?
Thundernerd 1:No. That's one guest in. Two more to go. I've a feeling. I've got a feeling.
Thundernerd 1:Do you want another name?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. I want another name.
Thundernerd 1:The next name I'll give you is Nicole Ari Parker. Not a name I'm personally familiar with.
The Ice Warrior:Damn. Damn. It has to be an early one for him.
Thundernerd 1:I'm worried that you're not gonna know this title. Next one. The next one is John C. Reilly. That's got him thinking.
Thundernerd 1:He's really thinking now about this.
The Ice Warrior:It's got a lot I know yeah. Like, if I don't get this, you're gonna tell me that I'm gonna know it. It's just gonna be one of these movies.
Thundernerd 1:I think you'll know the name of it, but you may not have seen it, I think is what.
The Ice Warrior:If not, I definitely haven't seen it recently. I can't remember the last time I watched a bloody Mark Wahlberg or Don especially Don Cheadle movie.
Thundernerd 1:So let's recap that. We have William H. Macy, we have Mark Warburg, Heather Graham, Don Cheadle, Nicole Ari Parker, John C. Reilly. Do you want another name?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah I'm gonna have to do
Thundernerd 1:it, it's gonna mess with me. Okay Rico Bueno, which I haven't heard of personally.
The Ice Warrior:Not a name I reckon.
Thundernerd 1:That's not a name, it's high hitter on the list, but it's not one that I would recognize. I think the next one might give you it's gonna paint more of a picture of this cast. Mhmm. Mhmm. Julianne Moore.
Thundernerd 1:It's a very interesting cast when you start thinking about these people in the same
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. I'm trying to think of what the they've been in. That was not that. Mark wasn't in that. It's gotta be one of those kinds of movies, but it's not the one I'm thinking of because Mark wasn't in that movie.
The Ice Warrior:Neither was Don. Jesus.
Thundernerd 1:I think I know the vein of
The Ice Warrior:the movie I'm thinking about. Okay. I'm not thinking of the name. Yep. Yep.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yep. Do want another? Yeah. Burt Reynolds.
The Ice Warrior:That hasn't fucking helped. Bert fucking Reynolds.
Thundernerd 1:Do you know who Bert Reynolds is?
The Ice Warrior:I know who Bert Reynolds is.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. But it doesn't help in terms of like how is how is he Why
The Ice Warrior:the fuck is he here?
Thundernerd 1:We're up to number we're up to number two on the list now as well. So he's high up
The Ice Warrior:there. Jesus. This has to
Thundernerd 1:be early. Look. Yeah.
The Ice Warrior:Has to be. Pet Prenals being so high. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Give me the last one.
The Ice Warrior:Fuck it.
Thundernerd 1:The last one is Louis Guzman.
The Ice Warrior:It's gotta be the same vein of movie. It has to be, but what the fuck
Thundernerd 1:is What are you what are you seeing at the moment?
The Ice Warrior:What are you seeing? I'm seeing I'm seeing a like a multi a multi actor movie. I say multi actor in the sense of which mostly named multi named actor movie. Something like a Grand Portapet a Grand Portapet's Hotel kind of level of this is a multi actor movie. Mhmm.
The Ice Warrior:Mhmm. Not not multi actor kind of like Yeah. A love actor
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep.
The Ice Warrior:You know? Yep. For the life of me, cannot think of like I was thinking maybe Expendables when Don Cheadle was in there, but it's like, no. Definitely not with that cast list. Mhmm.
The Ice Warrior:Thinking like a
Thundernerd 1:Do you want me to at this point because I feel like I've done you a disservice with this, possibly, and that's becoming a running theme with these games. Am I just trying to win? Possibly. Now I feel like I've done you a disservice in the in the sense that I picked a movie okay. Do you want me to give you a I'll I'll explain my reasoning after why I chose this, but then I'll I'll maybe I'll try and give you a couple of clues here just to help you along.
Thundernerd 1:Alright. Because I don't I honestly don't know if you're gonna know this name. So I I I'm just gonna try and help it along, and if you know it, then maybe it'll what would help you along? Would it be the like, the year that it came out?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. It helped me a little.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. 1998.
The Ice Warrior:So fucking early. I knew it. God damn it. So early.
Thundernerd 1:Mark Warburg was 25 or 26 when he
The Ice Warrior:started Yeah. He's just starting, really. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Don Cheadle back then as well wasn't really doing too much.
The Ice Warrior:Starting to get up there, but It's not coming to me. I feel like I know this Do you
Thundernerd 1:want do you want me to give you the synopsis? Go for it. An idealistic porn producer aspires to elevate his craft to an art when he discovers a hot young talent.
The Ice Warrior:Shit. It's there. It's it's fucking there when
Thundernerd 1:I play along at home. Thunder Nerds, do you know the name?
The Ice Warrior:It's the name. It's I know the movie. Far out.
Thundernerd 1:So it's a movie you've heard of, would you say?
The Ice Warrior:100%. If I haven't seen it, I've definitely heard of this one.
Thundernerd 1:You've heard
The Ice Warrior:of it? Okay. It sounds so familiar, but can't be Are you ready?
Thundernerd 1:Alright. Here we go. Yeah. It's Boogie Nights.
The Ice Warrior:Son of a bitch.
Thundernerd 1:Have you heard of that film before?
The Ice Warrior:Boogie Nights? Yeah. Have.
Thundernerd 1:I have. Okay.
The Ice Warrior:I haven't seen it. I you're right. I haven't seen this one, but I have heard of that.
Thundernerd 1:You've heard the name. Yeah. I thought it might be one where you may have heard the name. It's so I chose it for a couple of reasons. Firstly, I chose it because it's a Paul Thomas Anderson film.
Thundernerd 1:His latest one, One Battle After Another is out. It was one of the first, if not the first film with Mark Warburg in it, like, where he had like a, you know, decent sized role, I suppose.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. My thinking was, can I find a film that to trick you out where the names that are low down are actually big big names? So was trying to find people early in their career. That's how I was trying to play the strategy, but I feel like that is one that is it is harder. Like, if you don't if you're not into the PTA kind of filmography, it's a bit harder to recall back.
Thundernerd 1:So
The Ice Warrior:Certainly one of many to watch, Steamed Me Wrong, but never got around to it.
Thundernerd 1:Not to rock it. Okay. So but good look, it was a difficult one. Yeah. And Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:The first one even that was a bit of a stitch up as well. So it looks like we're learning a bit about how I play Yeah. Tonight. Do you want me to turn you down on the fader? Let the Thunder Nerds know?
The Ice Warrior:Yep. Alright. Let's do it. Good to go? Alright.
The Ice Warrior:So, Thunder Nerds, we are back here trying to absolutely just wreck his life now with one of his favorite movies, Raiders of the Lost Ark. So we'll see if he's able to pick this up.
Thundernerd 1:Alright. We're back. He's got a smile on his face. Okay. Let's do this.
The Ice Warrior:You're go you are going to get this movie. I know you've seen this movie. You will pick this up. How quickly you pick it up is the question.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Okay. Three guesses.
The Ice Warrior:Number 10, Vic Tablian or Tablian. Not entirely sure how to say the last name, though.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Not a name I'm familiar with, so I'm gonna say like go for number nine.
The Ice Warrior:Number nine. Anthony Higgins.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. That name rings a bell. Go again.
The Ice Warrior:Number seven. We're gonna fuck this one up too. Wolf Carla. Carla. You may get it on this next one.
Thundernerd 1:Anthony Higgins, woke up, and then there was a Vic that I don't think I know. Okay. None of these are none of these are calling to me yet. Go for the next.
The Ice Warrior:Alfred Molina. Oh, he's thinking hard. He's thinking hard about this one. The name's triggered something. He's triggered something in his little brain.
Thundernerd 1:Okay.
The Ice Warrior:You got three guesses.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Fuck. Okay. Can I lock one in?
The Ice Warrior:What's your guess?
Thundernerd 1:Promising young woman. No. Run me over the other names just quickly.
The Ice Warrior:So Vic Tablian or Tablian, Anthony Higgins, Wolf Carla, Alfred Molina. Carla. Carla. Do I try for a big dick swing here, Thunder Nerds, and try for a
Thundernerd 1:for another film, because it's not gonna be Spider Man. It can't be it can't be can't be Spider Man two, so I could use another guess now. I'm gonna lock another guess in. Raiders of the Lost Ark.
The Ice Warrior:You're correct.
Thundernerd 1:Okay.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Okay. It's huge. I knew you were gonna get it at Alfred. Fuck.
The Ice Warrior:I was like, you could get it at Alfred. Denholm Denholm Elliott was the next one on the list. Yep. Which I don't think you would have recognized. And then right after that, John Rhys Davies.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I I definitely would have got it on John Rhys Davies.
The Ice Warrior:You would have got it you would have got it over Don Rhys Davies. I was like, you know Alfred Molina. You might pick it up here.
Thundernerd 1:That that that it was a that is an example of going, like, that's a smart place to go. I'm gonna use two because I I would have had to have then gone two extra just to get the next person that I might have got it on. Yeah. You know what mean?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Okay. Cool. Alright. Let's let's nice one.
Thundernerd 1:That's a good that's a good see, that's a good example of finding a film where that someone recognizable is a bit lower in that list as well. So I feel like you've gone for that same strategy. How can we find people that are a little bit more well known that are further down on the list?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. It's it's really it's really interesting to see you kind of go about this as well. It's like, interesting. I can see what you've done.
The Ice Warrior:I can see kind of like yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:In that one, I feel like Yeah. With with Alfred, that's almost if people know Indiana Jones well, seeing him that far down on the list, if they know the films he's in, that's almost like a, oh, that could be Jones. Whereas Mark Wahlberg Yeah. See, when I when I think Mark Wahlberg, you were so right about the Freudian sleep. It was like very clearly being so far down, I had given away what my strategy was before the campaign started.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. Easy. Easy.
Thundernerd 1:It's an old film.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Alright.
The Ice Warrior:So I was like, fuck. But then I was like, oh, crap. I don't fucking know. I don't know where this is going or what's happening here. This is ridiculous.
Thundernerd 1:Alright. Let's let's go for the next one.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. This is gonna be interesting.
Thundernerd 1:I'm gonna I'm gonna mute myself quickly just so you can let them know now.
The Ice Warrior:Okay. So I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure this is one that he's seen. We're going to go with the usual suspects, so we'll see if that actually is something that he's he picks up.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. We're back. And he's got that evil that evil grin on the face again.
The Ice Warrior:Okay. This one on I've I'm I'm pretty sure you've seen this one. I'm pretty
Thundernerd 1:sure you've
The Ice Warrior:seen this one. Okay. Alright. Gosh, you're probably gonna guess this. You're you're either gonna guess this in the first couple or it might take you until the top, like, four.
Thundernerd 1:Really? Or Maybe top five. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:Okay.
The Ice Warrior:So Dan Hidea. Again, not sure if I said that.
Thundernerd 1:Dan Hidea. That is not ringing a bell. Okay. Next. Next.
The Ice Warrior:Probably gonna get into this one. I know I'm gonna say his name wrong. Giancarlo Esposito. Or Gian Carlo? Gian.
The Ice Warrior:Hello. Gian or Gian. You would know you know who this is.
Thundernerd 1:Well, he would be Gus Fring in Breaking Bad, and he's in The Mandalorian as the dude with the dark sword or the dark Moff Gideon. And he's he's number nine. So why would he be number nine? What what are you playing at here? Why would he can you can you read number 10 for me?
The Ice Warrior:Dan Hidea.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Okay. Let me think what movies he's been in. He's been in
The Ice Warrior:So much fun.
Thundernerd 1:I know he's been in Far Cry, but that's not a film. But he's been in Far Cry, been in Mandalorian, he's been in what else has he been in? Like he's a he's a he's a villainous type. Okay. Okay.
Thundernerd 1:I'll use a guess. El Camino. No. Alright. Yep.
Thundernerd 1:We might be in a bit
The Ice Warrior:of I thought they might. Yeah. I thought they you will you will get it. If you don't get it on the fifth, you will not get this at all.
Thundernerd 1:Go for the next one. Number
The Ice Warrior:seven. Susie Amos. Oh, Amos. Probably Amos.
Thundernerd 1:Fuck, it's not ringing a bell. Okay. I'm just gonna go yeah. Go again.
The Ice Warrior:Not sure how to say this one. Pete
Thundernerd 1:post Apostolate? Apostolate? Apostolate? What other films has he been what other films has he been Postalthwaite.
The Ice Warrior:Hostelthwaite. I believe that's how you say it. Probably dead wrong, but
Thundernerd 1:Okay. These aren't ringing a bell. I'm still on about yeah. Okay. Next one.
Thundernerd 1:Next one.
The Ice Warrior:Chaz Palmentiri or Palmentary. Chaz Palmentary.
Thundernerd 1:And what numbers is that? 6. Chaz? Fuck. That's not ringing a bell to me.
The Ice Warrior:I just want you seeing this, maybe I'm wrong. Do you want me to go five?
Thundernerd 1:I'm just thinking I'm just thinking of other ones that old mate's been in. I I honestly, I've I've got massive block of what he's been in. I'm thinking all I can see is Moff Gideon. I'm thinking I know that he did but I know he's done since Breaking Bad, he's done quite a few no. Number five, please.
The Ice Warrior:Number five is Kevin Spacey. That's Throw it in for a loop. What the
Thundernerd 1:hell is this film?
The Ice Warrior:Oh, this is really, really interesting. This is really, really interesting.
Thundernerd 1:So run me through the list up until now.
The Ice Warrior:Okay. So we have Dan Hidea, Giancarlo Esposito, Susie Amos, Pete Post Postel Postel Fuck. I'm gonna never gonna say that right. Chaz Palmentary, Kevin Spacey. That is six.
Thundernerd 1:It's Kevin pick pick six or five. Kevin's the number five.
The Ice Warrior:Kevin Kevin is the sixth name I have read out.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Freak. We've gone really far into this list. So I've got four left. Uh-huh.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Let me think. So if it's seven, Brad Pitt will be in the top four, Morgan Freeman would be in the top four, you would think Kevin would be in the top three, but there's the chick though, the lead. Maybe she's in the top three, Kevin's number four. I could justify Kevin being four.
Thundernerd 1:Kevin, I could see also being somewhat down the list on Glengarry, Glen Ross, but the only problem with that is there's a few people there's too many names that would be on that list that would have already come up that I would know because of the okay. I'm gonna say can I say that a young a young Moff Gideon actor had some type of role? I just with the with the types of names that have come up, I'm going to lock in Seven. No.
The Ice Warrior:I won't comment
Thundernerd 1:on that. How how many how many guesses have I had? Two. Can I lock in baby driver?
The Ice Warrior:Are you sure you want to?
Thundernerd 1:Yes. Incorrect.
The Ice Warrior:What was it? I'll read through the rest of the list.
Thundernerd 1:Why did I get greedy?
The Ice Warrior:Flew the police officer. Kevin Pollock? What's her name
Thundernerd 1:that is? Yep.
The Ice Warrior:Benicio Del Toro.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. I know Benicio. What is this Sicchiaro
The Ice Warrior:or Gabriel Byrne. Steven Baldwin. Shit. Steven Baldwin is top bill.
Thundernerd 1:Why beneath I'm worried that
The Ice Warrior:you haven't seen this and now I feel like shit. I don't
Thundernerd 1:think I have. What is this?
The Ice Warrior:This is I'll give you I'll give you a give me a rundown. Rotten Tomatoes, 87% tomato meter, 96% popcorn meter.
Thundernerd 1:About that even the synopsis? Or
The Ice Warrior:the year? It is average 7.8 out of 10. Okay. Metacritic scores at a 77 out of a 100. Yep.
The Ice Warrior:It is a film that was released in What year? What year was it? It was in 1995.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. So it is It is young in in his in his careers, Benicio and everybody's. So Crime thriller. Okay. And Prime thriller,
The Ice Warrior:so Synopsis. Yep. Synopsis, I will bring that up.
Thundernerd 1:You've done well to pick like one that has a few peep. I mean, Benicio and and I don't know how to pronounce the other dude's name, but that those are the ones that I know from that that list. I'm gonna look up actually, I'll do it after. Yep.
The Ice Warrior:Hardened criminal Dean Keaton lies badly wounded on a shop a ship docked in San Pedro Bay. He's confronted by a mysterious figure he calls Keyser, Keyser, who shoots him dead and sets fire to the ship. That's just the start of it.
Thundernerd 1:I haven't seen this for a while, I reckon. But I reckon that
The Ice Warrior:it is summary is a sole survivor of a peer shootout. It tells the story of how a notorious criminal influenced the events that began with five criminals meeting in a seemingly random The unusual suspects. Lineup. Yes.
Thundernerd 1:The unusual suspects. The usual suspects. The usual. I haven't seen it.
The Ice Warrior:I thought you would have.
Thundernerd 1:And and can I tell you can I tell you something? I know the name and I'll tell you why because it's been a film that's been on my list for so long to watch because apparently, The Usual Suspects has an amazing plot twist ending. And I and I've steered clear of it because I've been like, I'm I need to see that film without having it spoiled. So it's been on my list. It's not like I didn't know the name, just wasn't on that radar, but
The Ice Warrior:It's one
Thundernerd 1:great chat. Great chat.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. I genuinely thought I was gonna go, let's go for a bit of a deeper cut here. It's one that is right up his alley.
Thundernerd 1:He definitely should know you.
The Ice Warrior:Seen this or will at some point if he hasn't, it's one that's on your radar.
Thundernerd 1:Absolutely on my radar. I knew that that existed. That I know Kevin Spacey's I didn't know Benicio was in it, but I know I know Yeah. I know Kevin's Yeah. Filmography enough that I could've I could've got to that if I was thinking about it.
The Ice Warrior:Eventually, yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I could've got there. So you thought you've picked well with that. Because it's one that makes sense that he would be again. It's on that line of why is Kevin not at the top of that list of cast.
Thundernerd 1:Good pick. Okay. I think, dear friend, we move on to the spinning wheel to see what the next segments are, and then we wrap this pitch up. Go for it. Cool.
Thundernerd 1:Let's do it. Alright. Let's do it.
The Ice Warrior:Step on up here to the spinning wheel and have a
Thundernerd 1:little spin of this one. Spinning wheel.
The Ice Warrior:What the fuck? Here we go. It's so much more cursed than you realize because I'm I'm only getting, like
Thundernerd 1:You're getting, like, that audio.
The Ice Warrior:It's coming in and out, so it's so much worse.
Thundernerd 1:So cursed. I'll link you and please after go go go listen to this when I drop this I drop this potty because and just even just just go to the chapter points, listen to them cleanly if you haven't heard them. You need to. Okay. So are you ready to go?
Thundernerd 1:We are gonna spin the wheel. What are the two segments that we will add to the next one that we get together and do? Here we go. Next segment. Tagline.
Thundernerd 1:Tagline. Tagline. Okay. Let me find it. I'll read that out for you, Thunder Nerds.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Let's remind
Thundernerd 1:the viewers at home. Let's remind the viewers what are we doing. Tagline, guess the movie slash the video game from its official tagline. Okay. Interesting.
Thundernerd 1:Which would be like the tagline of not a synopsis or anything, but like if it had a whatever it was branded do we we know what the tagline is representing. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Thundernerd 1:Yeah. I think we could find that. We could find that. Okay. Tag on.
Thundernerd 1:Next one. Well, here we go. What's it landing on? What's it landing on? Surely not.
Thundernerd 1:I know why. Okay. Okay. Greatest of which is Rough. Let me find it.
Thundernerd 1:It almost went to m d b shuffle again. Greatest of build the Mount Rushmore of something. So we've got to come up with a subject, e g, comedy shows, villains, soundtracks, and we've got to come up with the Mount Rushmore of that thing, like, in the order that it's in. We have to go, I guess, agree on it, I suppose. Or do we come with it'll come with one do we come with the topic and we both build our Mount Rushmore's and compare them?
The Ice Warrior:I reckon
Thundernerd 1:Compare, maybe.
The Ice Warrior:I reckon we come with our own Mount Rushmore's, but then we have to then decide if it's not already the same on what the Mount Rushmore is and justify what
Thundernerd 1:Do a bit of justification and then and then come up with the final one. So what are our picks of that particular thing? Okay.
The Ice Warrior:We'll do that. Yeah. We'll do that.
Thundernerd 1:We'll do that.
The Ice Warrior:I like it.
Thundernerd 1:Okay. Anything to plug before we wrap this one up?
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. So I am streaming a bit more here and there. I've pretty much mostly finished Silksong. I've been moving on to some Destiny content, other things recently. Yep.
The Ice Warrior:And also, yeah, check out Chronicles and Chaos every Wednesday night. You'll see me playing through a campaign there.
Thundernerd 1:It's absolutely insane. Is it is it insane at the moment? Have you had a session recently?
The Ice Warrior:Dude, it's nuts. Yeah. Yeah. We just had one last Wednesday. We're doing it every from about 08:30.
The Ice Warrior:Sharing Eastern Standard Time, though that's about to change.
Thundernerd 1:Oh, daylight savings of course.
The Ice Warrior:Yeah. Since I we're about we're about to we're about to dip in the next layer of hell, like, the sixth layer, I think, at this point. Yeah. It's it's it's nice.
Thundernerd 1:Go check that out, Thunder Nerds. Maybe soon as well. Just finding it hard to get the time at the moment. I just worry, but would love to get a stream in with you of grounded two at some point soon. The only thing about grounded two streaming is it, like, streaming it, I find a noticeable difference of frame rate so much so that Oh, yeah.
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